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Are Christians and Muslims the Same?
Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2015 | Matt Barber

Posted on 01/12/2015 7:30:05 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: rfreedom4u

I would agree on the plagiarized deal...he needed the ‘quote’ to legit his preaching. At some point, several hundred years after his death...the various written versions were becoming a problem....while the group was still just an Arabia thing...someone recalled all copies and had every single Quran burned. A new....single version was written up, and distributed. Original copies around? No....none.

It’s curious....between Muslims, Catholics and Christians....there’s at least fifty primary prophets and another twenty-odd secondary prophets. Some matter....some don’t. Somewhere in his instructions....Mohammad says to the gang....he’s the last one, so there can be NO MORE. It’s pretty much bound up the entire religion....it can’t be evolved, changed, or progressed....it’s stuck in the 7th century way of thinking....with no possibility of another prophet changing the direction of the Islamic crowd.


21 posted on 01/12/2015 8:06:21 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Albion Wilde

I agree - that’s a good quote, I think I’ll share it.


22 posted on 01/12/2015 8:09:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Kaslin
1)Jesus - virgin born
Mohammed - not virgin born

2)Jesus - sinless
Mohammed - sinful

3)Jesus - called "Messiah"
Mohammed - not called "Messiah"

4)Jesus - called "Word of God"
Mohammed - not caled "Word of God"

5)Jesus - performed miracles
Mohammed - did not perform miracles

6)Jesus - ascended bodily into heaven
Mohammed - did not ascend bodily into heaven

23 posted on 01/12/2015 8:16:07 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Kaslin


24 posted on 01/12/2015 8:30:08 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - Open Up!" "Must be another UPS delivery, honey.")
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To: Kaslin
So I start saying:

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God ...

At this point, Christians are following along, mohammedans are screeching about 'blasphemy' ...

25 posted on 01/12/2015 8:32:19 AM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: Biggirl
>>The Muslim God is way, way far different then the Christian God, PERIOD.<<

Not according to the Catholic Church. They claim it's the same God they serve.

26 posted on 01/12/2015 9:02:56 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Well, they’re wrong.


27 posted on 01/12/2015 9:04:16 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: fuzzylogic
>>I get so tired of hearing “they worship the same God”. From people that claim to be educated and enlightened...of course they’re usually atheists.<<

CCC 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

28 posted on 01/12/2015 9:06:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: combat_boots

Obviously but that is their official position. If they haven’t the ability to differentiate I’m thinking they don’t know the god they serve.


29 posted on 01/12/2015 9:08:38 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

I am catholic and you are wrong. We do not claim it is the same


30 posted on 01/12/2015 9:27:48 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: CynicalBear

Prove it.


31 posted on 01/12/2015 9:28:35 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

See post #28.


32 posted on 01/12/2015 9:40:59 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

“usually atheists”

as for CCC 841 - I don’t really care what muslims “profess”...they’ve been lied to. The Christian God and Allah have two very different ethics models.

Islam is nothing but fascism wrapped in a cloak of religion.


33 posted on 01/12/2015 10:08:43 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic
>>as for CCC 841 - I don’t really care what muslims “profess”...they’ve been lied to.<<

I agree but that's not what I was getting to. It's the fact that the official position of the Catholic Church is that they do serve the same God. If the Catholic Church doesn't even see the distinction I would be concerned if I were one of it's followers.

34 posted on 01/12/2015 10:24:34 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Biggirl

Those verses say it pretty well. John 14:6 spells it out pretty well,too,for those who seem to think that all paths lead to God;that all beliefs are true.


35 posted on 01/12/2015 10:49:25 AM PST by oldtech
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To: fuzzylogic
Yet I’m obviously Islamophobic!! ...sigh, that’s the other word that is just stupid. It is a made up word that has no quantifiable meaning for the purpose of shutting down discussion.

A phobia is an unfounded or irrational fear. Since any rational person is right to have the well founded fear of those who want to convert you and enslave or kill you if you decline to convert, there is no such thing as Islamophobia.

36 posted on 01/12/2015 10:49:45 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: CynicalBear
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham...

Professing to hold the faith of Abraham is an early example of taqiyya.

37 posted on 01/12/2015 10:54:24 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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>>Professing to hold the faith of Abraham is an early example of taqiyya.<<

Actually I think Muslims really believe that.

38 posted on 01/12/2015 10:56:12 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kaslin

Thank-you and God Bless.

You made my day with what you have said. I am Catholic also and it gets me angry when that is cited because it used to “silence” us who are speaking out about the truth of Islam.


39 posted on 01/12/2015 11:48:33 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: CynicalBear

ok, understood...I can appreciate the Catholic Church wanting to befriend everyone, although it seems they are lost if they don’t understand it isn’t mutual.


40 posted on 01/12/2015 11:49:07 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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