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‘Selma’ distorts the truth about LBJ
Washington Post ^ | January 5, 2015 | By Richard Cohen

Posted on 01/06/2015 9:41:34 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

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To: FredZarguna

Presenting a scripted drama or historical fiction as pure history is both bad history and bad aesthetics. Dramatic conflation of historical events is in fact aincient. Everything from The Illiad to the Icelandic Sagas to ‘War and Peace’ (which is also horribly inaccurate in its portrayal of the French in the Napoleonic Wars).

Your comment about musicals is pretty funny though.


61 posted on 01/06/2015 10:34:41 AM PST by Borges
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Hey, I didn’t realize that slavery wasn’t all that bad. And that you evidently kinda sorta know what it was like. Thanks for the history lesson!


62 posted on 01/06/2015 10:35:13 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Hey, I didn’t realize that slavery wasn’t all that bad. And that you evidently kinda sorta know what it was like. Thanks for the history lesson!


63 posted on 01/06/2015 10:35:16 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Borges
Nobody with any sense should be taking this or any drama as a historical document.

As silly a comment as you've ever made, and that's saying something. Nobody [statistically] with any sense will be watching this film. ALL of them will believe it is historically accurate.

Strict adherence to historical record is not a criteria for drama and has never been at any time in the history of western civilization.

Talk about "where are you getting these rules!?"

When a "drama" purports to be history, its historical accuracy becomes a criteria for criticism. That has always been true "throughout the entire history of western civilization."

And by the way, Toto, "we aint in western civilization anymore."

64 posted on 01/06/2015 10:37:12 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: Iron Munro

He may be detestable and profane, but at least, up to this point, he's been right. No wonder Jeb says he wants be like him.

65 posted on 01/06/2015 10:38:13 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hint: those FReepers are full of crap.


66 posted on 01/06/2015 10:38:49 AM PST by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The Selma march or whatever it was so-called, amounted to nightly orgies, openly committing acts of a sexual nature, alcohol, drugs, and other deviant behavior in the surrounding fields or wherever they happened to be staying on any particular night. Why does no one ever mention that?


67 posted on 01/06/2015 10:39:12 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: Moonman62

The “War on Poverty” was a brilliant plan. Not sure who thought it up, but is sure gave the Dems a locked in base of votes.


68 posted on 01/06/2015 10:41:55 AM PST by nascarnation (....)
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To: FredZarguna

I’m speaking from the point of view of an informed viewer. If you assume everyone is a moron then there’s no point in discussing anything. I got those rules from a knowledge of literary history. Please furnish examples of these sainted novels and plays which are historical documents on par with ‘The World At War’. Historical Fiction is as old as fiction (the oldest fiction was probably historical fiction). I recently watched the 1830 opera ‘Anna Bolena’. Instead of enjoying the musical drama I guess I should have been checking off all the historical errors eh?


69 posted on 01/06/2015 10:43:59 AM PST by Borges
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To: Salamander

Superb! But how many of the post boomer generations are even going to recognize the face?


70 posted on 01/06/2015 10:44:13 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dangus

No, that was Jackson. But LBJ is right there with him.


71 posted on 01/06/2015 10:44:56 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“Vilifying” LBJ through historical inaccuracy, is like worrying about depicting Adolf Hitler as being cruel to animals when he was not. Everything else he did...

LBJ doesn’t even deserve to be called a “libtard.” He is a “libturd”. His mismanagement of the Vietnam War (along with MacNamara) was treasonous, his “Great Society” B.S. that he attempted even while trying to finance a war was lunacy.

To say nothing about having recalled carrier aircraft that were dispatched to aid the USS Liberty that was under attack (by the Israelis). And to rub salt in the wounds, Captain McGonagle of the Liberty was given his Medal of Honor by the Secretary of the Navy at the Washington Naval Yard (in an unpublicized ceremony) instead of being presented with it by LBJ at the White House. No loyalty to the men who died for the US.

Its a shame that the beagle that he picked up by its ears didn’t dig up LBJ’s corpse and take a leak on it. But then again, a dog would never be as disloyal and treacherous as LDJ.


72 posted on 01/06/2015 10:45:16 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Awww. Poor Richard doesn’t like his liberal heroes turned into movie villains. I don’t see him whining and crying as Ronald Reagan routinely gets turned into the living embodiment of Satan in any Hollywood movie. Johnson supported the Civil Rights Movement as a cynical political calculation, period.


73 posted on 01/06/2015 10:48:44 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: bigdaddy45

I notice that you didn’t contradict me.


74 posted on 01/06/2015 10:49:10 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Brad from Tennessee

LBJ was a lying, cheating POS who never met an election he could not buy.

And the WaPo knows it.

May his body continue to rot, fester, and smell.


75 posted on 01/06/2015 10:50:18 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: blueunicorn6

Why did LBJ refuse to run for a second term?


I’ve long held to the theory that he hated the Kennedys, was a darn good poll reader, and concluded that he faced a real chance of losing to Bobby. That would have been anathema, to his being.

LBJ announced he would not run again on March 31, 1968 and the convention began the last week of August, that year. Remember, in those days the convention was more suspenseful, unlike today, where the nomination has already been secured.


76 posted on 01/06/2015 10:50:38 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: nascarnation

Considering that the Democrats are the party of the KKK, yes, a brilliant but evil plan.


77 posted on 01/06/2015 10:50:54 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Romulus

I was THIS CLOSE >< to mentioning Jackson.


78 posted on 01/06/2015 10:51:57 AM PST by dangus
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To: NorthMountain

No, I didn’t contradict you. Alabama State Troopers beating the sh*t out of a bunch of unarmed people walking across a bridge in suits and ties was one of the small steps that brought us to where we are today. Better?


79 posted on 01/06/2015 10:52:34 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: FredZarguna

lolol

Oh, but they can go way WAY off the charts crazy with why Lincoln was the worst prez ever.

He was the worst States Rights offender ever. Stuff like that.


80 posted on 01/06/2015 10:53:13 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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