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Working towards a warp drive:In his garage lab,Omahan aims to bend fabric of space
omahaon.com ^ | 12-25-14 | casey long

Posted on 12/29/2014 8:29:32 PM PST by Deathtomarxists

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To: garjog

“My God. Do you realize what this means. It means this...damned thing doesn’t work!”


21 posted on 12/29/2014 8:55:19 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Rennes Templar
I read once where the key to advanced flight propulsion is to eliminate gravity around the vehicle, via on board electromagnetic generators. Then propulsion requires only a small force.

I read something similar. Back in the late 1980s. I think a couple Canadian scientists were working on electromagnetics on metal spheres, having them spin rapidly. The enclosure including the metal spheres appeared to become buoyant and rise by lessened effects of gravity. They claimed they were defeating gravity and would soon have working anti-grav engines. I didn't hear anything later on about them, in the 1990s or since the original articles. Filed it in the back of my mind along with fusion energy and traveling to Mars soon.

22 posted on 12/29/2014 8:59:08 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Deathtomarxists

One thing that nobody seems to think much about is, if we could make a warp drive to move a spaceship economical, how many ways could our lives change from smaller scale warp devices?

Imagine you are designing a building. You don’t need stairs or elevators anymore. Just put in a “warp shaft” to pull you through space to whatever floor you want to be on. With “warp trains”, suburban sprawl could extend out into neighboring states, because the commute would still be only a few minutes.

Or, on the more inconvenient side, what kind of missile defense are you going to design to prevent someone from warping a nuclear warhead right into the Pentagon? How about illegal immigrants and smugglers warping right across the border?


23 posted on 12/29/2014 9:17:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: roadcat
I read once where the key to advanced flight propulsion is to eliminate gravity around the vehicle,

I don't think that will work....in space thee is no gravity.....but a lot of gravity waves crisscrossing the universe....

just need a way to hitch a ride on them.

24 posted on 12/29/2014 9:21:46 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Boogieman
Imagine you are designing a building. You don’t need stairs or elevators anymore. Just put in a “warp shaft” to pull you through space to whatever floor you want to be on.

Yeah...great....a power surge or glitch in the control circuitry and you end up the other side of the galaxy....

Try this example:

The Therac-25 was a radiation therapy machine produced by Atomic Energy of Canada Limited (AECL) after the Therac-6 and Therac-20 units (the earlier units had been produced in partnership with CGR of France).

It was involved in at least six accidents between 1985 and 1987, in which patients were given massive overdoses of radiation.[1]:425 Because of concurrent programming errors, it sometimes gave its patients radiation doses that were thousands of times greater than normal, resulting in death or serious injury.[2] These accidents highlighted the dangers of software control of safety-critical systems, and they have become a standard case study in health informatics and software engineering.

I guess that machine received "glowing reviews"

25 posted on 12/29/2014 9:27:20 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: spokeshave
"Because of concurrent programming errors, it sometimes gave its patients radiation doses that were thousands of times greater than normal, resulting in death or serious injury."

Shouldn't some of them have become either superheroes or supervillains? That's what pop culture tells us always happens from extreme irradiation...

26 posted on 12/29/2014 9:38:38 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Boogieman
'cept the illegal alien would come out of warp drive on Jupiter, or maybe the asteroid belt.

LOL

27 posted on 12/29/2014 9:39:50 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: spokeshave

I’m reading one of his papers, and he claims they generate a “tripole” electrical field with this device, and this is a new phenomenon I guess they say they have developed. So who knows what that cage can or cannot block from the device?

What is interesting is that the metal weight is not even in the original experiment. He just aimed the laser through the center of the field, and measured compression of the beam and a red shift in the frequency. So, it’s hard to imagine a stray magnetic field caused that!


28 posted on 12/29/2014 9:39:58 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Deathtomarxists

“warp drive would work and would be devilishly simple to do.”

We’ll Get There!!

well, maybe not me personally, but smart people for sure!


29 posted on 12/29/2014 9:44:20 PM PST by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Ya’ll should read the article - he’s the real deal. He’s not hiding anything, he’s using known physics and he’s making connected incremental steps in his experimental process. And no physicist has been able to debunk him - they just keep telling him his findings are “premature.” His attitude is that they’ll keep telling him that right up until he flies a warp-drive ship through their walls. He’s very down to earth. This is pretty exciting stuff!


30 posted on 12/29/2014 9:46:14 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Rennes Templar

I think that is mostly true just for takeoff situations. Think about a glider, they have zero thrust, yet they can stay aloft for a long time, just through aerodynamics of their design. They just cannot get up in the air without external power.

So, if you could eliminate gravity, you could takeoff with very little power, but you would still probably need about the same amount to generate the same speeds through the atmosphere. Your main enemy is going to be air resistance at that point, not gravity.


31 posted on 12/29/2014 9:50:09 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: spokeshave
I don't think that will work....in space thee is no gravity...

Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there! (Playing devil's advocate here, a lot of this stuff is conjecture.) Scientists are puzzled that the amount of known matter in the universe doesn't explain the after-effects of the Big Bang, how fast galaxies are moving away from each other and the speed of expansion of the universe. They explain it by accounting for the missing matter as dark matter. It is everywhere in the universe, although invisible to us, and imparts gravitational fields everywhere. So... just hitch a ride on a big hunk of dark matter and propel your vehicle anywhere!

32 posted on 12/29/2014 9:52:57 PM PST by roadcat
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To: mylife

>> “I know a guy that was working on a way to split H2O to get free Hydrogen.” <<

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More correctly “Browns Gas.”

There is a clown up in Canada that sells kits to do that.

It will improve your fuel economy a little, but it is hardly worth the effort.


33 posted on 12/29/2014 9:53:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: spokeshave

Not just gravity waves, remember ALL waves extend to infinity by definition.

However, with waves emanating from all directions, and diminishing in amplitude with distance, they are all going to be interfering with each other at a small scale at any particular point in space, and probably just creating some little barely perceptible local fluctuations, not some ocean-type wave that we could ride on.


34 posted on 12/29/2014 9:55:31 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Deathtomarxists

Transporters, deflector shields, phasers, photon torpedoes, hyposprays, medical tricorders, dilithium crystals, bioneural gel packs for processing power, isolinear chips, PADDs with more calculating capabilities than all of today’s computers combined, ect


35 posted on 12/29/2014 10:02:53 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: roadcat

“It is everywhere in the universe, although invisible to us...”

No, no, no. It isn’t actually “everywhere”. It is only everywhere the physicists happen to need it to be in order to make their equations match the observed phenomenon.

For example, look at the motion of spiral galaxies. If the matter is distributed according to the visible matter in the galaxy, and the motion is caused by gravity, then the arms should spin slower than the center. Yet they do not, they keep pace, as if the arms and center were a single connected rigid body.

Now, if the dark matter were “everywhere”, meaning roughly evenly distributed, then it doesn’t solve that problem at all. You might expect the entire galaxy to rotate at a higher rate, but not just one section of it, because you are not changing the mass distribution. Only by imagining that there is invisible matter only in just the place it needs to be, and nowhere else, can you make the equations work.

It’s basically the worst kind of “fudge factor” imaginable.


36 posted on 12/29/2014 10:03:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: spokeshave

According to another article, the weight is not magnetic.


37 posted on 12/29/2014 10:07:43 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Throw some mothballs in the tank.


38 posted on 12/29/2014 10:08:49 PM PST by mylife
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To: Art Bell

The new Madman Marcum for 2015


39 posted on 12/29/2014 10:12:27 PM PST by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Overthink? Nope. The ability to warp space is still dependent upon mass, and small masses and low power just ain’t doing it.”

Such an assumption may be true for a certain set of assumptions; but we remain very ignorant about gravitational, weak nuclear, strong nuclear, and any yet to be discovered forces. We can conjecture means of warping space-time without gravitational singularities and other current models of causality. Perhaps the electrical field is somehow linking together already existing sub-particle or sub-space fields of force to briefly enable a larger than usual sub-space field or warp bubble?


40 posted on 12/29/2014 10:14:23 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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