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Salon: “No proof that Jesus even existed”; Muhammad’s “established beyond the shadow of a doubt”
Jihad Watch ^ | December 24, 2014 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 12/24/2014 8:12:24 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican

In October, Jeffrey Tayler wrote in Salon that the Qur’an “backs up jihad, suicide attacks (“martyrdom”), beheadings, even taking captive women as sex slaves.” This was singular for Salon, which usually whitewashes the truth about Islam and jihad and excoriates those who expose it as “racists” and “bigots,” but now it is clear why Tayler was able to get away with it: he is supremely hostile to Christianity. Here, he gives a characteristic Salon Christmas greeting: Jesus likely never existed, but Muhammad’s existence is well established.

“Let’s make Bill O’Reilly’s head explode: We desperately need a war on Christmas lies,” by Jeffrey Tayler, Salon, December 22, 2014 (thanks to Scott):

Some 2,000 years after the alleged event, religious scholars, despite their best efforts, have still found no proof that Jesus even existed. Although it might seem reasonable to suppose such a one as he walked the earth in the Middle East, historical records kept by the Romans (then in charge of Judea and Samaria) and contemporary chroniclers make no mention of him. The Gospels are not historical records and don’t count; they were composed decades afterward. It has even been credibly proposed that Paul and his cohorts created the savior with strokes of their quills by mythologizing history. Footnote: If you’d still like to believe in a prophet whose existence has been established beyond the shadow of a doubt, try Muhammad.

I think Tayler is somewhat overstating his case, but I welcome investigation of the existence of Christ and the reliability of the New Testament narratives. I wonder, however, if Tayler has ever seriously investigated the existence of Muhammad, even as he takes it to be “established beyond the shadow of a doubt.” In my book Did Muhammad Exist?, I show that there is serious reason to doubt that he did. These include the facts that:

1. In the contemporary accounts written by the people the Arabs conquered, the writers describe the conquerors in detail, but make no mention of their having a new prophet, a new religion, or a new holy book. This is extraordinary, since the conquests themselves were supposed to have been inspired by that holy book and prophet.

2. Those early accounts call the conquerors “Ishmaelites,” “Saracens,” “Muhajirun,” and “Hagarians,” but never “Muslims.” They don’t seem to know this word, which is likewise extraordinary, since it is supposed to be the only word the conquerors called themselves.

3. No record of Muhammad’s words or deeds appears until more than 125 years after he is supposed to have died. No record of Muhammad’s reported death in 632 appears until more than a century after that date.

4. The Arab conquerors, in their coins and inscriptions, don’t mention Islam or the Qur’an for the first six decades of their conquests. Mentions of “Muhammad” are non-specific and on at least two occasions are accompanied by a cross. The word can be used not only as a proper name but also as an honorific.

5. The Qur’an, even by the canonical Muslim account, was not distributed in its present form until the 650s, over 20 years after Muhammad is supposed to have died. Yet no contemporary account even mentions the Qur’an until the early eighth century.

6. During the reign of the caliph Muawiya (661–680), the Arabs constructed at least one public building whose inscription was headed by a cross – a symbol abhorrent to Islam.

I await Salon’s investigation of these issues! But I won’t be holding my breath. For Salon, outside of Tayler’s October piece, Islam is non-white, non-Christian, and non-Western, and hence good, while anything associated with the heritage of most Salon writers is ipso facto evil and to be condemned.


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1 posted on 12/24/2014 8:12:24 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

So is Hitler established beyond a doubt.


2 posted on 12/24/2014 8:15:10 PM PST by Williams
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Who is this onesie-pajama-wearing cocoa-sipping pillow biter, anyway?

Never heard of her, probably never will again.


3 posted on 12/24/2014 8:15:29 PM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Rave on fools.


4 posted on 12/24/2014 8:15:37 PM PST by doc1019
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Okay, both existed. There are more historians who deny the Holocaust than deny that these two men existed. One was the Son of God, another was a warlord with a taste for young girls. Salon just beclowns itself again


5 posted on 12/24/2014 8:15:43 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Whatever Salon says, you can be certain the opposite is true.


6 posted on 12/24/2014 8:15:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

America has descended into the darkness of the deepest abyss? Is any hope left?


7 posted on 12/24/2014 8:18:34 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Salon is a waste of bandwidth.


8 posted on 12/24/2014 8:18:45 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
I bet Taylor does the same kind of thing Madelyn Murray O'Hara did for Christmas.

She would set up a Nativity set near the Christmas tree and proceed to furiously stomp on all the pieces in front of her kids.

9 posted on 12/24/2014 8:19:18 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Islam was created for the sole purpose of destroying Christs kingdom on earth. Unless unforseen circumstances prevail, the next caliphate is upon us.


10 posted on 12/24/2014 8:20:54 PM PST by x_plus_one (Come with me if you want to live.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

it is only a matter of time until the far left starts jihad.


11 posted on 12/24/2014 8:22:00 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

All who have raged against him will come to him and be put to shame. Isaiah 45:24b


12 posted on 12/24/2014 8:22:53 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Islam’s Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad’s Own Words

http://prophetofdoom.net


13 posted on 12/24/2014 8:24:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: rdl6989

This goes double for wireless dial-up users.


14 posted on 12/24/2014 8:26:01 PM PST by __rvx86 (This Tagline is gluten-free.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Don’t look now, but...

http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/12/the-christian-origins-of-islam

Make popcorn, could be worth watching.


15 posted on 12/24/2014 8:26:48 PM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Even Muhammad knew Jesus existed.

Some folks are absolutely clueless. There is plenty of historical evidence that Jesus existed. The Bible is a good starting point.


16 posted on 12/24/2014 8:27:13 PM PST by boycott
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

“It has even been credibly proposed that Paul and his cohorts created the savior with strokes of their quills by mythologizing history.”

Credibly? Why would thousands of people go to torturous deaths over a made-up story? It makes no sense. Why would the romans have records of just another executed carpenter?


17 posted on 12/24/2014 8:27:26 PM PST by plain talk
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To: rdl6989

They can read Robert Spencer’s book “Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins” and get back to me.

He gives a scholarly and compelling argument that Moh is an amalgamation of Islamic folklore. The King Arthur of Islamic campfire story telling as it were.


18 posted on 12/24/2014 8:29:29 PM PST by doc1019
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Salon’s Jeffrey Tayler is obviously not a very well-read man but that never seems to stop some people from spewing their opinion.


19 posted on 12/24/2014 8:30:18 PM PST by boycott
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Salon exists? In which Universe?


20 posted on 12/24/2014 8:32:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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