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An Economic Indicator That Predicted The Last 7 Recessions Predicts No Recession Any Time Soon
BI - Guggenheim Partners ^ | 12-18-2014 | Scott Minerd

Posted on 12/18/2014 8:03:43 PM PST by blam

Scott Minerd, Guggenheim Partners
December 18, 2014

Plunging oil markets and faltering growth expectations around the world have raised fears about the sustainability of the current U.S. economic expansion.

The economic data, though, suggest that these fears are largely unfounded. The Conference Board’s Leading Economic Index, which is made up of 10 forward-looking economic and financial indicators, has not fallen since January and has been gaining momentum throughout the year.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; finance; investing; recession
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1 posted on 12/18/2014 8:03:43 PM PST by blam
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2 posted on 12/18/2014 8:05:50 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

” the current economic expansion”?????? BS


3 posted on 12/18/2014 8:06:29 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: blam

Whoever came up with the idea of making a career out of declaring we are or aren’t in a recession must be making a mint no matter what the facts are.


4 posted on 12/18/2014 8:07:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: blam

If history teaches us anything, a lot of these crashes are preplanned. 2008 was right before the most important Presidential election ever, and I would think you may want to watch this predict meter in 2016, as the election nears.


5 posted on 12/18/2014 8:07:36 PM PST by Kackikat (anser)
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To: blam

Tonight I’m gonna party like it’s 2099!


6 posted on 12/18/2014 8:09:49 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: blam
What current expansion?
We're already IN a recession so there is none to predict.

7 posted on 12/18/2014 8:13:23 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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It sure seems that way....therefore, a conservative will never have a shot at being president again....


8 posted on 12/18/2014 8:14:25 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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No Recession Any Time Soon

Well I hope to hell not, we're still not out of the current depression.

9 posted on 12/18/2014 8:14:35 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Kackikat
If history teaches us anything, a lot of these crashes are preplanned. 2008 was right before the most important Presidential election ever, and I would think you may want to watch this predict meter in 2016, as the election nears.

I predict the MSM will declare the American economy to be the most vigorous it's ever been in all of American history...

...In late October of 2016.

10 posted on 12/18/2014 8:14:53 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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Right before it crashes in November, 2016 when the Republicans win...it will be George Bush’s fault.


11 posted on 12/18/2014 8:15:53 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it walks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: blam; All

Maybe that is because we are still in one (and yes that is snarktastic)


12 posted on 12/18/2014 8:16:30 PM PST by Nifster
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Blue skies ahead.


13 posted on 12/18/2014 8:19:25 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: cripplecreek

Facts? LOL

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master— that’s all.”


14 posted on 12/18/2014 8:22:00 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Thorliveshere

I haven’t seen a conservative nominee for president in a long time.


15 posted on 12/18/2014 8:30:02 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (My love affair with an abuser is over. Support a third party.)
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To: Thorliveshere

There is a lot of speculation about that, and I heard there may not even be an election, which is very disturbing.... How much of this ‘transformation’ will Americans stand for?


16 posted on 12/18/2014 8:33:08 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it walks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: blam
Ever since a FReeper asked for ideas to counter Obama supporter claims about his great economy I've looked for unbiased tables to present proof that the 1960s aging campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological litter braggarts are (mostly) full of it. Here are three tables that IMO show the decades long impact of Reagan. Proof that we can go for years and years of good times.

The sources for the data are listed if you want to see for yourself.

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey (CPS)

go to Labor Force Statisics from the Current Population Survey (CPS) and select

Than click "Get data"

Once the data are delivered select a different from date if you wish and click "Go".

Population data came from:

Population Estimates Program, Population Division, U.S. Census Bureau. Also Census Fact Finder for beyond 2009

Source: Population Estimates Program, Population Division, U.S. Census Bureau Internet Release Date: April 11, 2000 Revised date: June 28, 2000.

I took the population numbers and the first quarter data from each of the eleven tables obtained from BLS and combined them into the table below. N = not available.

I omitted population and some other columns to try to get the remaining columns side by side.

  1. Population
  2. Civilian noninstitutional population [thousands]
  3. Civilian labor force [thousands]
  4. Civilian labor force participation rate
  5. Employed [thousands]
  6. Employment-population ratio
  7. Employed full time (persons who usually work 35 hours or more) [thousands]
  8. Unemployed [thousands]
  9. Unemployed looking for full-time work [thousands]
  10. Unemployment rate
  11. Unemployment rate of the full-time labor force
  12. Not in labor force [thousands]
Year Qtr1 3. 4. 6. 10. 11. 12.
1948 60231 58.7 56.5 3.7 N N
1949 60968 58.9 56.1 4.6 N N
1950 61650 58.9 55.1 6.4 N N
1951 62081 59.3 57.2 3.5 N N
1952 62193 59.3 57.5 3.1 N N
1953 63539 59.6 58.0 2.7 N N
1954 63629 59.0 55.9 5.2 N N
1955 63830 58.5 55.7 4.7 N N
1956 66239 60.0 57.5 4.0 N N
1957 66740 59.7 57.4 4.0 N N
1958 67171 59.3 55.6 6.3 N N
1959 67884 59.2 55.7 5.8 N N
1960 68770 58.9 55.9 5.2 N N
1961 70523 59.6 55.6 6.8 N N
1962 70337 58.9 55.6 5.6 N N
1963 71277 58.6 55.2 5.8 N N
1964 72584 58.7 55.5 5.5 N N
1965 73792 58.7 55.8 4.9 N N
1966 75073 58.9 56.6 3.9 N N
1967 76496 59.3 57.0 3.8 N N
1968 78023 59.4 57.2 3.7 3.4 N
1969 79874 59.8 57.8 3.4 3.0 N
1970 82210 60.5 57.9 4.2 3.8 N
1971 83676 60.2 56.6 5.9 5.5 N
1972 86208 60.3 56.8 5.8 5.4 N
1973 88232 60.4 57.4 5.0 4.6 N
1974 91379 61.3 58.2 5.1 4.7 N
1975 93023 61.2 56.2 8.2 8.0 58964
1976 95049 61.3 56.5 7.7 7.5 60026
1977 97703 61.9 57.2 7.5 7.2 60208
1978 100934 62.8 58.8 6.3 6.0 59895
1979 104383 63.7 60.0 5.9 5.5 59374
1980 106567 63.9 59.9 6.3 6.0 60195
1981 108274 64.0 59.2 7.4 7.3 61005
1982 109374 63.8 58.1 8.8 8.9 62123
1983 110639 63.8 57.1 10.4 10.9 62866
1984 112512 64.0 59.0 7.9 8.0 63167
1985 114976 64.8 60.1 7.3 7.2 62546
1986 116928 65.0 60.5 7.0 6.9 62897
1987 119079 65.4 61.1 6.6 6.5 62923
1988 121013 65.8 62.0 5.7 5.5 62954
1989 123251 66.3 62.9 5.2 5.0 62522
1990 125781 66.7 63.1 5.3 5.1 62849
1991 126071 66.3 61.9 6.6 6.5 64200
1992 127357 66.3 61.4 7.4 7.4 64718
1993 128485 66.2 61.5 7.2 7.1 65621
1994 130555 66.6 62.2 6.6 6.7 65530
1995 132087 66.8 63.1 5.5 5.4 65795
1996 132916 66.5 62.8 5.5 5.5 66860
1997 135582 67.0 63.5 5.2 5.1 66813
1998 137148 67.1 64.0 4.6 4.5 67247
1999 138900 67.1 64.3 4.3 4.1 67976
2000 142386 67.3 64.6 4.0 3.9 69200
2001 143808 67.2 64.3 4.2 4.1 70293
2002 144339 66.6 62.8 5.7 5.8 72325
2003 146020 66.3 62.4 5.9 6.0 74090
2004 146832 66.0 62.3 5.7 5.7 75524
2005 148261 65.9 62.4 5.3 5.2 76777
2006 150556 66.1 63.0 4.7 4.6 77208
2007 153059 66.3 63.3 4.5 4.5 77780
2008 153874 66.1 62.8 5.0 4.9 78932
2009 154294 65.7 60.2 8.3 8.9 80619
2010 153696 64.9 58.5 9.8 10.7 83301
2011 153294 64.2 58.4 9.0 9.7 85558
2012 154655 63.8 58.5 8.2 8.8 87782
2013 155437 63.5 58.6 7.7 8.2 89392
2014 155804 63.1 58.9 6.7 7.0 91282
one two three
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N N
N N 5.17%
N N 4.70%
N N 4.15%
N N 3.13%
N N 2.93%
N N 2.90%
N N 2.58%
N N 3.19%
N N 4.64%
N N 4.51%
N N 3.87%
N N 3.92%
27.30% N 6.69%
27.53% N 6.22%
27.34% N 5.94%
26.91% N 4.98%
26.38% N 4.54%
26.49% N 4.99%
26.59% N 6.08%
26.82% N 7.37%
26.89% N 8.87%
26.79% N 6.54%
26.29% N 5.96%
26.19% N 5.73%
25.97% N 5.33%
25.75% N 4.56%
25.33% N 4.15%
25.19% N 4.22%
25.46% N 5.38%
25.38% N 6.07%
25.46% N 5.82%
25.17% N 5.37%
25.04% N 4.36%
25.21% 10.80% 4.45%
24.95% 11.30% 4.18%
24.88% 11.70% 3.66%
24.93% 11.90% 3.39%
24.52% 13.30% 3.21%
24.67% 13.80% 3.39%
25.15% 14.00% 4.84%
25.54% 14.40% 4.92%
25.79% 14.50% 4.73%
25.98% 14.80% 4.32%
25.88% 15.30% 3.84%
25.82% 15.70% 3.70%
25.96% 15.60% 4.09%
26.28% 15.50% 7.22%
26.98% 15.80% 8.60%
27.55% 15.90% 7.85%
28.06% N 7.13%
28.37% N 6.61%
28.77% N 5.67%
% not in % labor % Unemployed
labor force force foreign looking for
born full-time work
Recession
November 1948(IV) to
October 1949 (IV)
N
N
N
July 1953(II)
May 1954 (II)
N
N
August 1957(III)
April 1958 (II)
N
April 1960(II)
February 1961 (I)
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
December 1969(IV)
November 1970 (IV)
N
N
November 1973(IV)
-
March 1975 (I)
N
N
N
N
January(I) - July 1980 (III)
July 1981(III)
November 1982 (IV)
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
July 1990(III)
March 1991(I)
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
March(I) - November 2001 (IV)
N
N
N
N
N
December 2007 (IV)
-
June 2009 (II)

One: % not in labor force; Not in labor force / U.S. population.
Two: Source July 2013 Foreign-born workers in the U.S. labor force Percent of the U.S. labor force that is foreign born, 1996–2012 annual averages "The foreign born include legally admitted immigrants, refugees, temporary residents such as students and temporary workers, and undocumented immigrants. The survey data, however, do not separately identify the numbers of persons in these categories.
Three: % Unemployed looking for full-time work; Unemployed looking for full-time work / Civilian labor force.

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions, Contractions (recessions) start at the peak of a business cycle and end at the trough.

National Bureau of Economic Research, Inc. Cambridge MA 02138

Link from BLS SPOTLIGHT ON STATISTICS THE RECESSION OF 2007 – 2009

The NBER does not define a recession in terms of two consecutive quarters of decline in real GDP.
Rather, a recession is a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.

To the best of my knowledge I copied the source data correctly.

17 posted on 12/18/2014 9:01:42 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Looks like there are two that it missed and a couple of near misses. I’d be careful as hindsight is 20/20.


18 posted on 12/18/2014 9:13:49 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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We’re currently IN A recession, yet they don’t even see it, because the stats are rigged


19 posted on 12/19/2014 12:04:25 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: blam

...how can you begin something anew that has never ended?


20 posted on 12/19/2014 2:19:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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