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Amnesty fight: Obama admin tells courts they’re powerless to stop executive order
wash times ^ | 12/16/14 | s dinan

Posted on 12/16/2014 5:39:41 PM PST by bestintxas

The administration warned a federal judge Monday to stay out of the debate over President Obama’s deportation amnesty, saying decisions about whom to deport fall squarely within the executive’s job description, “which this court lacks authority to review. In its first extended legal filing in one of the court challenges to the new amnesty, the Justice Department says courts have long held that an agency’s decision whether or not to prosecute someone or to enforce the law is entitled to “absolute discretion.”“Federal courts sit to decide cases and controversies, not to resolve disagreements about policy or politics,” said Joyce R. Branda, the acting assistant attorney general who took the lead on filing the brief.

Ms. Branda said the administration had to impose the new deportation amnesty because immigration enforcement has become too costly in recent years, outpacing the amount of money Congress provides, so picking and choosing which illegal immigrants to deport is the best use of taxpayers’ money.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; executiveamnesty; marburyvmadison; obama; obamaamnestyillegal
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To: bestintxas

wrongo obama

there is nothing higher than the court, only God. You, are below the court, obama


81 posted on 12/16/2014 7:44:00 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: bestintxas

ACTING assistant attorney general, eh?


82 posted on 12/16/2014 8:16:26 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Waryone

And I’m pretty sure that federal judges take strong exception to being “warned” by anybody about their decisions.


83 posted on 12/16/2014 8:18:04 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: windsorknot
27 The country deserves the tyrant if it refuses to impeach and convict him. I am thoroughly disgusted with the willingness of U.S. citizens and their Congressmen to tolerate the lawlessness of this president.

Wisdom of Dead White Men Afflicted with White Privilege

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84 posted on 12/16/2014 8:18:47 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: MacNaughton

Great men, great wisdom. We ignore it at our peril.


85 posted on 12/16/2014 8:29:43 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: bestintxas
The administration warned a federal judge Monday to stay out of the debate over President Obama’s deportation amnesty

From The Desk of Federal Judge Arthur Schwab

Dear Mr. Obama,

    Eff you.

Cordially,

Arthur Schwab

86 posted on 12/16/2014 8:36:07 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Two parties, governing AGAINST the will of the people, not with the consent of the governed." --MrB)
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To: Usagi_yo

Or, what’s to stop states from deciding who is eligible to vote within the state.... who’s to stop them from marking the newly ‘amnestied’ as ineligible? Or, who is eligible for any state benefits? Or, eligible to attend schools? Or eligible to obtain a driver license. Or rent/own a home, or car...etc

Hard Ball.

If the newcomers can’t vote in the red states they are mostly useless to the democrats...they become instead a burden to them.


87 posted on 12/16/2014 8:39:27 PM PST by Bobalu (Please excuse the crudity of this model. I didn't have time to build it to scale or paint it.)
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To: Lazamataz

Very good!


88 posted on 12/16/2014 8:40:22 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Sasparilla
The Dear Leader has spoken.

May I offer:

Queer leader

89 posted on 12/16/2014 8:45:21 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: bestintxas
The administration warned a federal judge Monday to stay out of the debate over President Obama’s deportation amnesty, saying decisions about whom to deport fall squarely within the executive’s job description, “which this court lacks authority to review.

In its first extended legal filing in one of the court challenges to the new amnesty, the Justice Department says courts have long held that an agency’s decision whether or not to prosecute someone or to enforce the law is entitled to “absolute discretion.”

“Federal courts sit to decide cases and controversies, not to resolve disagreements about policy or politics,” said Joyce R. Branda, the acting assistant attorney general who took the lead on filing the brief.

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I'm speechless. I can't wait until Obama's lawyers try to present the same argument before the Supreme Court.

After Obama's lawyers dare to present such an arrogant argument before the Supreme Court, Obama's lawyers better hide quickly behind a desk and take cover to protect themselves from the inevitable backlash when the angry Supreme Court judges respond by screaming at Obama's lawyers.

Something like this: "Who do you think you are talking to?" "How dare you try to tell us what we can and cannot do. Shame on you."And worse.

90 posted on 12/16/2014 8:50:20 PM PST by john mirse
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To: john mirse

He knows boener will not initiate impeachment, so two more years of absolute power. He just takes it. Who will stop him?


91 posted on 12/16/2014 8:52:52 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Defund , sue, impeach. Overturn Obamacare, amnesty.)
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To: JimSEA
If the executive decides to ignore the decision of a court and the legislature refuses to challenge the executive then you have to see who has the most guns, obviously the executive.

Correct. The end-game is underway. It's been obvious for a long time it was coming to this. The Hard Left has no intention of giving up its power.

92 posted on 12/16/2014 8:54:07 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: MacNaughton

Great Quotes! however:

“There are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by sudden and violent usurpations.” James Madison

In this go-around with zero and the RINORAT GOP-e, we have BOTH in the course of six years!


93 posted on 12/16/2014 8:57:42 PM PST by txhurl (No more taglines)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I just wish this Congressional oversight was being implemented from the Congress rather than being argued for in Court.


94 posted on 12/16/2014 9:14:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Jim Robinson

True, and I’m glad the judge did what he did.

I just thought that characterizing Obama’s reaction as squealing like a pig getting slaughtered was a bit much.

Unfortunately it sounded more like a threat than a squeal.

That judge better not have any skeletons hiding anywhere.


95 posted on 12/16/2014 9:14:32 PM PST by aquila48
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To: DesertRhino
“I don’t want him impeached. I want him hung for treason!”

I rise to a point of order. It’s “hanged”, not “hung”. Hung is,,, well, google it.

*****

Okay. I want Obama "hanged" by his "hung." Close your eyes and try to imagine what I just said.

96 posted on 12/16/2014 10:07:02 PM PST by john mirse
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To: bestintxas
The administration warned a federal judge Monday to stay out of the debate over President Obama’s deportation amnesty, saying decisions about whom to deport fall squarely within the executive’s job description,

That may be true, but the fallacy of reversing the statement into a moronic assertion does not :

The decision about whom not to deport, or to ignore a law altogether, has not been permitted, ever.
Else why would we ever have need of the Appellate Courts or The Supreme Court?

97 posted on 12/16/2014 11:46:28 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: bestintxas

Wake me up when the patriots decide to remove the king. I will be willing to provide food and shelter to anyone who takes on this noble task.


98 posted on 12/17/2014 6:16:55 AM PST by Wisconsinlady (GOP ticks me off worse than the dems)
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To: bestintxas
...immigration enforcement has become too costly in recent years...

The cost of Obamacare has become too costly in recent years. Shut it down!

99 posted on 12/17/2014 6:24:21 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“the administration had to impose the new deportation amnesty because immigration enforcement has become too costly in recent years”
You said, “Cost is a concern? OMG I had a good laugh at this one. ROFL!”

Obama and his henchmen cannot speak the truth.
A few days ago, I read immigration is hiring 1,000 more people to process the illegals Obama is making legal. So, they are hiring 1,000 but evidently that cost doesn’t matter.


100 posted on 12/17/2014 6:25:36 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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