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Establishment revenge? Jeb Bush, Romney lead GOP field for ’16
McClatchy DC ^ | 12/16/2014 | BY DAVID LIGHTMAN

Posted on 12/16/2014 10:22:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 12/16/2014 10:23:55 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ek_hornbeck
The best case scenario would be for Jeb, Mitt, and Chris to all be in the race against a single conservative opponent, so that the establishment vote would split between the three of them while conservative votes consolidate around a single candidate.

The worst-case scenario would be Jeb Bush (and no other RINOS) against a field of primary candidates who divide the conservative vote.

Consider what happened when Giuliani ran. He wasn't the most wildly implausible presidential candidate ever. But he got just about no support anywhere, because it was felt he'd take votes away from the front-runners, so he pulled out pretty quickly. The voters he's competing for want a winner.

By contrast, conservative candidates linger forever on the merest hope they'd be elected. Their constituents reward purity or consistency or principle and haven't had much of a problem splitting the vote among multiple candidates.

Unless there really isn't more than one or two conservative candidates it will be the same way this time around. Jeb gets in early to head off Mitt, and when Chris enters either he or Jeb will make a quick exit.

And of course, if a conservative does arise who can really challenge Jeb or Chris or Mitt, sooner or later the word gets out that he or she isn't really conservative enough, but that's another story.

81 posted on 12/17/2014 4:23:04 PM PST by x ("These comments are are not an accurate reflection of who I am")
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To: CatOwner
Conservatives would rather have eight years of Hillary and/or Warren than vote for a right of center GOP candidate who isn’t ultra conservative. If you love Obama, might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage.

If what you said was accurate, then I would agree. The problem is that the current batch of candidates that are being foisted off on us are NOT right-of-center. They're little more than a poke in the eye to the party base. If it were someone with a 65% conservative rating against Hillary, or even 50%, I'd vote for them, but these candidates are... just ugh.

82 posted on 12/17/2014 4:50:16 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Finny

The NWO will make sure that each party runs an acceptable candidate.
That way they it is a guaranteed win for them.
It’s over.
There will be totalitarianism followed by a spiritual renewal and then revolution.
It’s all unfolding as we speak.
Trust in the Lord alone, for any politician will undoubtedly disappoint.
That said, I’ll go ahead and vote for the most electable conservative in the primary. Unfortunately I’m in Texas and the GOP nominee is usually set by the time it’s gets here.
I won’t vote for Bush or Christie.
I would vote for Cruz, Walker, and maybe even Rand Paul in the general election.


83 posted on 12/17/2014 7:24:50 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: x
By contrast, conservative candidates linger forever on the merest hope they'd be elected. Their constituents reward purity or consistency or principle and haven't had much of a problem splitting the vote among multiple candidates.

Or in many cases, they stay in the race just to keep their message in the limelight, even when they don't have a prayer of getting the nomination. You're right about "moderates" (liberals) in the GOP being more pragmatic about dropping out when their star fades, but then, they don't have a message to keep in the spotlight, they're just mouthpieces for the RNC.

84 posted on 12/18/2014 9:44:16 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: CatOwner
Conservatives would rather have eight years of Hillary and/or Warren than vote for a right of center GOP candidate who isn’t ultra conservative. If you love Obama, might as well prepare for eight more years of the same garbage

Jeb Bush and Chris Christie are right of center? Could have fooled me. They'd be perfectly at home in the Democratic party alongside so-called "moderate" Clintonites. Their policies (though not necessarily their rhetoric) are almost exactly the same.

If it's Jeb vs. Hillary, it's a matter of complete indifference to me which of the two wins.

85 posted on 12/18/2014 3:50:38 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Never said they were. I just indicated someone more conservative than the so-called front runners would still not be voted in because they were not conservative enough.


86 posted on 12/18/2014 4:25:10 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Monorprise

Amen. Well said.


87 posted on 12/18/2014 5:58:26 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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