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Undocumented Immigrants Line Up for Door Opened by Obama [and the GOPe]
NYT ^ | December 14, 2014 | By JULIA PRESTON

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:54:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson

LOS ANGELES — They pushed strollers, tugged toddlers and streamed into the convention center in the heart of this city on Sunday, thousands of immigrants here illegally and anxious to find out if they could gain protection from deportation under executive actions by President Obama.

The crowd, waiting in a long snaking line to check in, was drawn by an information session organized by advocacy groups offering people initial assessments to see if they meet the requirements to apply to stay in the country and work. The day became a kind of coming-out party for about 5,000 unauthorized immigrants, the largest gathering in the country of people who might qualify for temporary protection since the president’s announcement last month.

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Immigration advocates convened the information session in downtown Los Angeles not just to give out information but to galvanize their supporters as Republicans, angered by what they see as an illegal power grab by Mr. Obama, say they will seek to halt the programs when they gain control of both houses of Congress next year. Texas was joined by more than 20 other states, most led by Republicans, in filing a lawsuit to stop the president’s actions, arguing he exceeded his constitutional authority.

Hundreds of activist leaders also converged here for a three-day strategy conclave to plot how to enroll a maximum number of people in order to create momentum among immigrants and Latinos so they will defend the president’s actions and try to stop Republicans from canceling the programs before they get off the ground.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; chamberofcronyism; cromnibus; cronybus; gope; gopestablishment; invasion; liberalgop; obama; omnibus
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To: Pearls Before Swine; F15Eagle

” That’s $5/hr actual pay for the job, plus maybe $10/hr in welfare benefits. It’s cost shifting of labor to the taxpayer. “

Not enough people mention this, or are even aware of it.

B T T T


21 posted on 12/15/2014 8:59:26 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; All

” Funny what some people consider ‘winning’ and a ‘lesser evil’. Hope they take pride in having helped destroy America. Because without their direct help, none of this would have been possible.”

It really WASN’T a lesser evil at all.


22 posted on 12/15/2014 9:02:28 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: katiedidit1

Fight till hell freezes over and then fight on ice.


23 posted on 12/15/2014 2:20:05 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Jim Robinson

If they want to call them “undocumented”, let’s start calling them unwanted criminal invaders.


24 posted on 12/15/2014 4:23:21 PM PST by ksm1
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To: F15Eagle
Starting?

The bipartisan consensus in favor of cutting the legs out from the American middle class is inescapable at this point.

Jobless in America

25 posted on 12/15/2014 5:52:48 PM PST by OddLane
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To: F15Eagle

Yep. Two classes. The elites and the workers. Millions and millions are willing to be the workers. The rest will be done away with. And, yes, they’re all in it together.


27 posted on 12/15/2014 6:49:19 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (My love affair with an abuser is over. Support a third party.)
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To: Gaffer
Good points. Illegal Third Worlders (advocating the overthrow of the US govt) are organized into "pressure groups"...even before they jump our borders. Third World federales are salivating for zillions in "humanitarian foreign aid" and anything else they can ge their greeedy hands on.

REALITY CHECK---WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO HUMANITARIAN US FOREIGN AID Former Guatemala Prez used US banks to launder millions (Portillo was elected to (ahem) "redistribute" the nation's wealth. The ex-president of the Central American country of Guatemala faced charges in New York that he used US banks to launder millions looted from his impoverished nation. Alfonso Portillo took office in 2000 pledging to (ahem) redistribute Guatemala’s wealth.

Portillo, 61, allegedly ran scams to drain the impoverished country's coffers. The feds say Portillo embezzled about $2.5M provided by the Taiwanese embassy....$1.5 million was earmarked for “Libraries for Peace”....books for school kids. Portillo personally endorsed three, $500,000 checks issued against an account at the Intl Bank of China in Manhattan, then deposited the cash in the Miami bank account of a Guatemalan bank controlled by “a close associate and political supporter”.

The embezzled money was funneled to bank accounts in Paris in the names of Portillo’s ex-wife and daughter. Portillo swindled nearly $4M defense funds ...and plundered the national bank run by his alleged co-conspirator through overdrafts financed by public reserves. Stolen foreign aid money paid for expensive watches and cars, for Portillo and his associates, according to the indictment. (NY POST 5/28/13)

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/former_guatemala_program_used_from_bJ7Akdr3YK85070OumW5FN

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REMINDER: $266 million of our tax dollars in the current spending bill is going to Central America federales to help them (GAG) assist "child victims of violence."

Current Guatemalan President Otto Perez warns the US will be
inundated w/ even more contagious illegals if billions of US tax dollars are not handed over.

GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - The United States should provide billions of dollars to help Central American nations curb the flow of illegal migrants, Guatemalan President Otto Perez said, and his government warns the problem will get worse if Washington fails to help.

Fleeing violence, trying to reach relatives already in the United States or seeking jobs, record numbers of child migrants from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador have been stopped at the southern U.S. border this year, causing widespread alarm. Last month, the three countries pitched Washington an ambitious development plan to confront the issue.

They want to pump about $10 billion into the region to create jobs and lift living standards, with the bulk of funding coming from the United States, Perez told Reuters. He hopes the plan could come up with about $2 billion a year from 2015 to 2019, a sum he equated to roughly 10 percent of annual U.S. spending on border security and immigration enforcement.

"Now we understand it's not simply a question of the United States saying: 'Right, here's $2 billion a year for five years' for example - the governments of the three countries have to play their part too," the conservative Perez, who took power in early 2012, said in an interview late on Monday.

The US aid package would boost infrastructure and provide more jobs in all three countries, especially in areas that send large numbers of migrants to the United States, he added.

The three Central American governments are urging the United States to shoulder the lion's share of the costs, arguing that U.S. demand for illegal narcotics has fueled violence among drug gangs across much of the impoverished region.

"The United States has to support this, it has no other option," Guatemala's foreign minister, Carlos Morales, told Reuters. "If they don't support it, the crisis will kick off again, you can count on it."

Perez said he hoped the United States would put up about 60 percent of funding. "But we'll have to discuss it calmly and see what each individual country can do, and what can be achieved by common consent."

During meetings in New York in September, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told Central American officials he hoped Congress could approve about $300 million in funding, Morales said, noting the sum was "nothing" given the scale of the problem.

Central American leaders are due to meet Vice President Joe Biden on Nov. 12 in Washington to sound out U.S. support for their plan, Morales added.--SNIP--

(Reporting by Dave Graham; Editing by Kieran Murray) http://news.yahoo.com/u-stump-billions-curb-central-america-migration-perez-171130651.html

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CONCLUSION: OBAMA IS COLLUDING W/ THIRD WORLD AGENTS ADVOCATIMG THE OVERTHROW OF THE US GOVT included in the $trillion dollar funding bill is an extortion payment to Central America---$266 million tax dollars to help them (GAG) assist "child victims of violence."

28 posted on 12/16/2014 7:37:25 AM PST by Liz (Pres Reagan on govt shutdown: "Let's close it down and see if anyone notices.")
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To: All
Hundreds of latino activists advocating the overthrow of the US govt also converged, organized to undermine the US govt---and to derail US elections. The plot entails enrolling a maximum number of latinos in order to create momentum to stop Republicans from canceling the suck-up programs before they get off the ground.

SORRY PEDRO---TOO LITTLE TOO LATE:

Going into the Nov 2014 midterms, organized latino pressure groups were heaping scorn upon taxpaying Americans opposed to Obama's E/O----the pressure groups were threatening Republicans with extinction---saying the latino vote was going to destroy them.

REALITY CHECK: 2014's deluge of American votes was a tsunami that submerged DEMOCRATS in waves of defeat. Democrats who ran on amnesty were soundly defeated. Fox's Britt Hume said the latino vote was not even a factor. Republicans won an historic one-for-the-books election.

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REFERENCES: WET DREAMS OF ILLEGALS---TV news aired Murrieta, California taxpayers turning away bus loads of unaccompanied minors swarmintg the border last fall; taxpayers cited their concerns about public health (actions pre-dated child deaths from enterovirus and various Third World contaminates). American who dared speak out, were accused of fear-mongering and exaggeration by latino pressure groups.

At the La Raza conference in Cali (predates midterms)---Cong Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Ill) lacerated Republicans over amnesty; he threatened Republicans---saying vengeful latinos would make sure they never win another presidency. And who could forget the imbecilic Gutierrez strutting around, crowing about "having the House votes" to pass the Senate amnesty atrocity?

La Raza President/ and chief hater, Janet Murguia, told hyphenates that it sickened her to hear Americans chanting. She accused Murietta, Cali protesters of having "cloaked their hatred in patriotism" by shouting "'USA! USA!' again and again."

"It mademe angry," she said. "In fact, I was outraged."

Murguia demanded amnesty and said the road to the White House for Republicans goes through the Latino community and La Raza. She also said Republicans who want to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not get Hispanic votes.

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

29 posted on 12/16/2014 7:46:42 AM PST by Liz (Pres Reagan on govt shutdown: "Let's close it down and see if anyone notices.")
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To: Norm Lenhart
Funny what some people consider ‘winning’ and a ‘lesser evil’. Hope they take pride in having helped destroy America. Because without their direct help, none of this would have been possible...

I've been rereading your post and still don't have a clue what you mean.

30 posted on 12/16/2014 7:51:56 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: gogeo

People here and elsewhere on the web/media have, for years, been subjected to the lesser evil fan club’s hogwash being pushed by dedicated sycophants in and of the GOP. The result of their propaganda war is that the general public bought into it and has, over those years, sent more and more unprincipled ‘lesser evils’ to DC under the premise that the Dem was the greater evil.

We just saw the supposedly ‘lesser evils’ wreck what was left of America as we knew it (Constitutionally) with the adoption of Democrat immigration and yet another round of funding Obama/Romneycare. They could have defunded it all. They freely chose...CHOSE...not to. That is not lesser evil. It is the greatest evil.

So it is the people that sent the ‘lesser evils’ to DC in the first place that bear the responsibility for the actions of the people they empowered.


31 posted on 12/16/2014 8:07:22 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

” We just saw the supposedly ‘lesser evils’ wreck what was left of America as we knew it (Constitutionally) with the adoption of Democrat immigration and yet another round of funding Obama/Romneycare. They could have defunded it all. They freely chose...CHOSE...not to. That is not lesser evil. It is the greatest evil.”

All we need to know.


32 posted on 12/16/2014 11:15:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: F15Eagle

The “reforms” are now ruled UNconstitutional, but, since Obama is not governing UNDER the Constitution, this decision doesn’t affect anything!


33 posted on 12/16/2014 2:18:01 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Norm Lenhart
That makes total sense.

I suppose we each have our tipping point, where we're unwilling to support a lesser evil to avoid a greater one.

At some point the country reaches a tipping point where we're not choosing the lesser evil but simply empowering evil. When the parties can't be distinguished by their actions on immigration or spending, what's the point of supporting either?

For me, that time has come...and the longer we wait, the fewer and less attractive our options.

34 posted on 12/16/2014 3:55:02 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: F15Eagle

Enthusiastically spread the word about the “Protest Against Obama Amnesty” rally across America for 2015-01-03 ... Ted Cruz, Jeff Sessions, Mike Lee (et al) will GREATLY appreciate our support ... A great Patriot turn-out WILL encourage the Senate and House GOP to dump McConnell and Boehner ... God Bless America ... Facebook page “Obama Amnesty National Protest : 2015-01-03” ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=680NlRI3v2I ... Thanks to All !!!


35 posted on 12/17/2014 5:12:43 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: F15Eagle

thanks !


37 posted on 12/17/2014 6:23:31 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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