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Elizabeth Warren is catching fire
Politico ^ | December 13, 2014 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 12/14/2014 2:14:57 AM PST by Zakeet

Ready for Warren? Run Liz Run? Run Warren Run? Draft Warren?

Progressive activists haven’t agreed on what to call the movement urging Elizabeth Warren to run for president, but they largely concur on this: with every recent anti-establishment move the Massachusetts senator grows more attractive as a 2016 candidate, both in her own right and as a progressive foil for Hillary Clinton.

Such sentiments were on vivid display this week at RootsCamp, a gathering of some 2,000 progressive activists held in Washington, D.C. The event was held as Warren and others on the left have been denouncing the “cromnibus” spending bill winding its way through Congress over provisions they say are too friendly to Wall Street.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
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To: Zakeet

I wonder how many millions of dollars have already been spent on this upcoming election?


81 posted on 12/14/2014 8:33:09 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tanknetter
The three big things against Warren are, first, the whole Liawatha/Fauxahontas scandal - which will resonate outside of deep blue states like MA. Second, that her jump into the political world was enabled by the great personal wealth she accumulated by exploiting foreclosures. And third, that she's going to be in a competitive nomination race against people who want to be President just as badly as she does. Including one of the most ruthless politicians this country has ever produced and who will not allow herself to be caught off-guard like she did in 2008.

Don't forget that business of her practicing law without a license.

82 posted on 12/14/2014 8:34:02 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

What I’m saying is people will vote for Warren or anyone else who will campaign about restoring the middle class and cleaning up the pro-elite banking and financial mess. Pocketbook issues resonate.


83 posted on 12/14/2014 8:35:16 AM PST by grania
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To: grania
What I’m saying is people will vote for Warren or anyone else who will campaign about restoring the middle class and cleaning up the pro-elite banking and financial mess.

They need to be reminded they've been lied to before. Obama needs to be hung around her neck like a millstone.

84 posted on 12/14/2014 8:39:17 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Rome2000

“She’s a communist retard from Massachusetts”

That makes her the perfect Libtard candidate for 2016. :-)


85 posted on 12/14/2014 8:40:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: grania

I suspect you’re correct.
Even the young guys coming up in Nascar go to “finishing school” to learn how to interact with interviews and sponsors.


86 posted on 12/14/2014 8:42:05 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: tanknetter

Second, that her jump into the political world was enabled by the great personal wealth she accumulated by exploiting foreclosures.


For someone who hates banks so much, she sure spent a lot of time in them looking for troubled loans she could nudge the bank into foreclosing so she and her husband could swoop in and buy on the cheap. Good luck running away from your gold mine, Focahauntas!

I think it’s good that rat voters are being forced to contemplate which candidate to coalesce behind so early. A decent number voted R for the first time last Nov, so they’ll be more receptive to the only real reformer running - Cruz - who despises country-club Republican cronyists as much as they do.

Cruz needs to be out mining those voters right NOW before they get mesmerized by some as-yet-unidentified RAT male governor.


87 posted on 12/14/2014 8:52:20 AM PST by txhurl (No more taglines)
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To: grania

Look, anybody touting economic equality is touting communism. Not socialism, but flat out communism.

Is the financial Industry bad? To an extent yes, but only in that politicians seem to be the gift that keeps giving for the campaign contributions that keep coming.

Stop letting conservatives let the banks get away with usury and insane fees and stop letting the progressives force loose lending practices on the bank in the name of economic equality.

We’re in a problem of our own making. Very low interest rates mean money has to hit Real Estate or Stock Markets or Venture capital.


88 posted on 12/14/2014 9:02:11 AM PST by Usagi_yo (Coming events caste their shadow beforehand.)
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To: grania
Elizabeth Warren was told to stay quiet, but she didn’t – and it’s paying off

The members in the GOP who were/are anti bailout, anti TARP, against cronyism better start standing up or they will miss this populist opportunity.

89 posted on 12/14/2014 9:05:23 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: tacticalogic

You don’t get it. I don’t want Obama “hung around her (Warren’s) neck like a millstone”. I want supposed conservatives to embrace the issue. If they don’t, I have to wonder whose side they’re on.


90 posted on 12/14/2014 9:32:04 AM PST by grania
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To: Zakeet

As I said on this forum 14 months ago, Hillary will never be president, nor even come close to the nomination. Warren’s insurgency, which I predicted (check the history) coupled with Hillary’s increasing health and memory issues (caused by a brain injury far more serious than revealed) will do her in. She won’t make it to Super Tuesday.


91 posted on 12/14/2014 9:34:28 AM PST by montag813
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To: Zakeet
"Elizabeth Warren is catching fire"

She wouldn't be the first Mass. witch to be burned.


92 posted on 12/14/2014 10:04:51 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: grania

I get that, but you’ll have better luck with that discussion if you start a thread for it instead of trying to hijack this one.


93 posted on 12/14/2014 11:06:18 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: grania
I think you are on to something with your posts in this thread. We conservatives, myself certainly among them, endlessly complain about the elites in the Republican Party, an establishment which has succumbed to Rino-ism and pushed The Tea Party as far as possible into the political wilderness. We identify with Ted Cruz and even with Rand Paul and express a populist yearning for a government responsive to the middle-class instead we get a Mitch McConnell sellout to K St. and Wall Street.

We were furious about TARP (myself more ambiguous than committed against it) and apoplectic about porkulas. We are now outraged that wherever possible the establishment has torpedoed the campaigns at the primary level of tea party candidates who would speak to these issues and who would, at least presumably, carry through with they get to Washington. Instead we see the likes of Cochran pushed through in Mississippi and Mike Espe in Wyoming, who voted against our interests to fund everything Obama dreamed of and everything the establishment Republican class dreamed of through the fiscal year, with the exception that they pretended not to fund amnesty.

We have seen Republican congressmen and senators fall in line to support this travesty because money talks. There can be no doubt that to understand present-day politics one must follow the money. That means the control of people like George Soros over the Democrat party and that means control by people like Karl Rove over the Republican Party. Wall Street and K St. now dominate the establishment wing of the Republican Party and the Tea Party base will be manipulated with cynical resort to issues like gay marriage. A United States Senator, after all, has very little to do with whether gay marriage will prevail in this country, apart from confirming federal judges, but he has great control over the financial affairs of the nation. So the establishment Republican party gathers its money from Wall Street, votes Wall Street's interest against the middle-class by, for example, surreptitiously facilitating amnesty and picks up the votes from the base by pandering to that base about gay marriage.

The reality over the past few election cycles, certainly beginning with Bill Clinton, is that the Democrats have had the best of both possible worlds, they have received the bulk of Wall Street money and hung the blame on the Republicans for being the party of Wall Street. Ted Cruz and Elizabeth Warren at least in theory are at odds with this alignment which places each political party in thrall to these moneyed interests. That is not to say that they agree on anything else but they understand the implications of the influence of this money in politics. It means that The Tea Party will have to go the way of the Grange movement. It means that the Republican party elites will become more and more estranged from the base. It means that the national debt will soar until we crash and it means the end of our Constitution, or what's left of it.

Make no mistake, the Constitution is being jettisoned in favor of a new system of creating money by an unelected Federal Reserve Bank to be allocated to big Wall Street banks and minimally apportioned as political necessity requires to keep the electorate under control. So the Republican establishment will campaign against amnesty while they actively connive to deliver amnesty. They will decry spending while they try to restore earmarks. The list goes on and on and the squabble over bailing out big banks for failed swaps is merely one more example. The game in Washington is to legislate and regulate to the extent that big-money must and will pay off to be relieved of that legislation and regulation.

I think Ted Cruz gets it. I think Elizabeth Warren is motivated by a rank leftist ideology but she will strike a chord and rightly so.


94 posted on 12/14/2014 10:06:12 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
What an excellent coherent explanation you've written about the situation we're in.

You suggest a future without the Constitution as we've know it. I'd submit that the best possible outcome at this juncture would be a collapse of the federal government as we know it. Some states and regions would survive, some not so much. It might be that the sooner it happens, the better. At least for now some people have survival skills and remember what government should be. Not all populations have been overwhelmed by takers. I wonder how long those advantages will remain.

Ted Cruz and Elizabeth Warren get it. So do a handful of others. But mygosh, how does it ever happen that so many politicians are overwhelmed so quickly in the DC smog? It can't be just money.

95 posted on 12/15/2014 2:54:18 AM PST by grania
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

If this shrew becomes President, I predict a new nursery rhyme:

“Lizzy Warren took an ax,
gave the economy 40 whacks.
When she saw that she was done,
she gave national security 41.”


96 posted on 12/16/2014 4:07:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; ...

She’s unelectable unless our side majorly effs up. We should pray for her nomination.


97 posted on 12/17/2014 9:21:19 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; NFHale; DoughtyOne

” She’s unelectable unless our side majorly effs up. We should pray for her nomination.”

If Jeb runs, he will lose like Carter lost to Reagan. I figure 70% of the country hates Bush men in general, and Jeb in particular.


98 posted on 12/17/2014 9:37:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I hate the Bushes.

But I can’t see her winning that matchup either. She’s a rat faced little commie witch. She has none of Obama’s razzle dazzle.


99 posted on 12/17/2014 10:15:45 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; NFHale

Both comments express my views.

Nailed it!


100 posted on 12/17/2014 10:17:57 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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