Posted on 12/11/2014 8:52:13 PM PST by ctdonath2
“Congress and the American people have debated a number of different paths to try to hold President Obama accountable for his executive overreach. While there is still disagreement on which path is best, the path that we took in the House tonight is the first step to get us there. First and foremost, this bill holds the line on spending, implementing a spending level that is even lower than the one proposed in the original ‘too conservative to pass’ Paul Ryan budget. Additionally, the bill implements conservative priorities such as an increase in pay and funding for our troops, as well as accountability measures for the IRS and EPA.”
“While the bill implements restraints on executive overreach in many areas, it could not turn off the funding stream that the President intends to use for his executive actions on immigration. As conservatives, we have all been very frustrated by recent attempts at unilateral lawmaking by the Obama Administration. There is a misconception, however, that if we shut down the government that we can prevent him from acting. A government shutdown can’t stop him. His actions are funded with money that he raises through fees, so regrettably he can and will continue his unilateral efforts whether the government is funded or not. We must find another way.”
“Rather than having America’s attention focused on a government shutdown, we can shine the spotlight on the President’s egregious executive actions. By funding most of government for the long-term, but limiting funding to two months for the Department of Homeland Security—the agency planning to implement the President’s unilateral action—we will be able to narrow the entire funding conversation for the new Congress to this one department. The House, with a willing partner in the Senate having been sworn in, can then begin to move legislation to stop this President’s actions. With smart, targeted bills we will partner with the American people to restore Constitutional order.”
“Having a willing partner in the Senate isn’t ‘something’; it is ‘everything’. The House passed its funding bills beginning last May; but the Senate never passed a single funding bill all year. The American people can be certain that the new Senate sworn in this January will not repeat the current Senate’s inaction. The House can neither run the government nor rein in the President alone. Help is on the way in January, and it isn’t coming one day too soon.”
No, you are wrong. There is one other thing and it needs to be organized. The question is not what but how?
“Why are they funding Homelamd Security (and therefore Obama’s amnesty) until Feb 27?”
They didn’t fund Homeland Security, it was already funded until Feb 27....so they are going to let it expire when the New Republicans are in power.
Yup, just as full of shite as a Christmas Goose.
...”we will be able to narrow the entire funding conversation ‘for the new Congress’ to this one department.... The House, with a willing partner in the Senate having been sworn in, can then begin to move legislation to stop this President’s actions. With smart, targeted bills we will partner with the American people to restore Constitutional order.”
But he did not mention how going this route would affect Amnesty once the NEW Congress has it in it’s hands....or is that also if anything, to be peicemealed as well? Meanwhile Amnesty rolls right along.
His actions are funded with money that he raises through fees, so regrettably he can and will continue his unilateral efforts whether the government is funded or not. We must find another way.”
Much of the funding for amnesty implementation comes from DOJ/HHS pots. The Obama-Boehner-Woodall amnesty plan now fully funds those departments for the entire FY. This isn’t an accident. The GOP planned it this way because they want amnesty. End of story.
Earlier in the day, the vote was 218 and needed 219 to pass. Someone, a Republican, sold out then enough to pass the $1.1 Trillion, Amnesty funding bill passed against the will of the people!
Under the Senate bill it will cost ‘an individual’ more than $4,000 in fees and penalties to receive permanent legal status...
Well...they mostly spent that much paying off bribes to get here in the first place so what’s the big deal.......did they just feel entitled to a free pass once they got here? or like other minorities if you can’t work and save and pay for it you just take it!
I’m so sick of their handouts....my kids didn’t get squat for making their life here other than what i did for them...which was prescious little to what I would have liked....they worked their way thru college....and paid their own way pretty much.
I haven’t seen it described that way. All the write-ups say they are providing funding to HLS until Feb 27.
But whatever the case, by Feb 27 it will be game over. Who really thinks Boehner and McConnell will fight a serious battle to end Obama’s amnesty, especially after two months of ‘bringing undocumented Americans out of the shadiows’ and ‘keeping families together’? Boehner doesn’t seem the type to stand up to absurd charges of putting illegals back in the shadows and reviving the awful threat of deportation.
It’s more likely that Boehner starts crying after hearing some illegal alien sob story.
What the? “While the bill implements restraints on executive overreach in many areas, it could not turn off the funding stream that the President intends to use for his executive actions on immigration. As conservatives, we have all been very frustrated by recent attempts at unilateral lawmaking by the Obama Administration. There is a misconception, however, that if we shut down the government that we can prevent him from acting. A government shutdown can’t stop him. His actions are funded with money that he raises through fees, so regrettably he can and will continue his unilateral efforts whether the government is funded or not. We must find another way.”
Can someone explain this to me?
I have no idea what they will do.
I guess they funded with the current amounts, not from before, until Feb 27.
>>>Under the Senate bill it will cost ‘an individual’ more than $4,000 in fees and penalties to receive permanent legal status<<<
I guess this means that other Lawbreakers like Bank Robbers should just be fined $4,000 and go on their merry way. After all, they have Families to feed. Boo friggin hoo...
How about Working American Citizens only have to pay $4,000 in Income Taxes? Seems fair to me since we already have “permanent legal status” even though we have become Second Class Citizens under the Obama Regime..
Can someone explain this to me?
Congressman Gruber is repeating an old debunked GOP pro-amnesty talking point from a couple weeks ago. He thinks the goobers back home won’t know any better.
How could this bill be said to hold the line on spending, when it puts taxpayers on the hook for hundreds of trillions (with a T) of dollars worth of derivatives?
Lying comes natural to these fellows.
But this spiel is hardly believable anyway.
I tweeted this MOFO & I’m in TX. Told him he financed the invasion & would NOT BE RE-ELECTED
“an increase in pay and funding for our troops”
Seriously?? One percent?? HAH ha ha ha. Newspeak is driving me up the wall.
Frikkin traitors.
Here’s a decent summary of what’s in the bill... for those of you who want to continue fighting this in the Senate... or want to know more than just the sound bites of the talking heads.
There’s some decent stuff, but also some stuff that will make freepers hair stand on end.
Check out the sections on:
- Dodd-Frank (which a lot of democrats are fuming over and I agree with them)
- Immigration - Not only are we paying to take care of the kids that came over, but we’re giving $260 Mils to the governments that sent them over.
- Obamacare (ACA) - I’m not sure of the impact of what’s there, if any.
- Federal workers - get to continue partying
- Marijuana - blocks the legalization in DC, but also blocks the Justice dept from interfering with states that passed medical pot laws and industrial production. A bit schizoid if you ask me.
- Campaign Finance - Vastly increases allowable donations - Can’t say I favor giving the ultra wealthy even more political clout.
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