Posted on 12/09/2014 5:16:59 PM PST by SMGFan
Two months ago, the U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments in the case of Integrity Staffing Solutions c. Busk et al., concerning the question of whether employees at a warehouse–an Amazon distribution center, in this case–should be paid for the time that they spend waiting for security checks when they leave work. The Supremes issued a unanimous decision earlier than expected, and they say that security checks should not be considered part of the job at a distribution center
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There is one other solution. Vote in a labor union such as the UAW, SEIU, or Teamsters and then negotiate compensation for standing in line. A union shop would end Amazon as we know it; management does too.
Management has responsibilities for security, but how long is reasonable, 10 minutes yes; 1 hour no. There should be some easy solutions to this problem.
True. But asking people to be always honest is like asking pigs not to wallow in mud.
They should be happy they don’t work in a diamond m ine.
> How exactly are unions supposed to overturn the Supreme Court?
Unhhh, bargaining? Make it part of a contract?
When the left loses in the Supreme Court they ignore it and do what they want anyway
Yea, we’re a bunch of whiners who want to be paid for work.
I agree. We were required to be on duty 15 minutes prior to our shift starting, to attend pre-shift briefing, which included roll call. We had to clock in prior to line-up, and clock out at the end of our shift. Initially, we were paid a flat rate for each 15 minutes. Many years later, the union negotiated with the State to pay us overtime for the pre-shift briefings because anything over the regular 40 hour work week was considered overtime by the Department of Labor.
GASP!!!
No wonder they want to be paid for going through the eternal check point. ;)
Its asshole remarks like yours that set back Conservatives. They pull this crap at my job and FORCE people to wait up to 15 minutes to leave the building after they are off the clock.
If you and others here can’t see how fundamentally wrong it is to take a man’s time and not pay him, you are a sad pathetic waste of flesh.
I worked for New York State's prison system. The uniformed staff had three main shifts: Shift One was 6:45 a.m. to 3 p.m. Shift Two was 2:45 p.m. to 11 p.m. Shift Three was 10:45 p.m. to 7 a.m. On numerous occasions I would be scheduled to work a double shift (Shift Two and Three: 2:45 to 7 a.m.). I wouldn't get the overtime for the 2nd 8 hours, because the State considered Shift Three to be the next calendar day. It was their way of getting away with not having to hire overtime to cover an empty post.
They have an internal point of reference.
Hourly employees at fedgov agencies, secretaries, etc, all have to clear security on the way into their buildings.
They clock in when they get to their actual office, not when they hit the door.
Everyone seems to be missing the 800 pound gorilla in the room, which is:
Who made the Supreme Court the arbiter of the terms of private contracts between employers and employees?
The whole time clock, "I'm on MY time" mentality is actually dragging the workers down and limiting their opportunities in life. Unfortunately that attitude is fostered by labor unions and Democrats.
A true professional will show up to do his job and do it well. He will not fret about being asked to do something "off the clock". I actually find it kind of demeaning to "punch a clock" like I'm some kind of unskilled laborer. I think the last time I punched a clock was when I was 17 and working at the supermarket bagging groceries.
They should be paid for all time that they are required to spend at the site of their employer. Otherwise, their employer is a thief.
The employees' remedy, therefore, is to get Congress to write a new law requiring pay for such inspections.
We need much more distributed, less centralized, community-based production. Better distribution and transportation would also result.
I don’t work for free. Your attitude is what sucks. You ought to listen to yourself. I guess I ought to be glad I got a job that I should just work for free.
I am a professional and expect to be paid for same. I am not a charity and do not represent myself as one.
You know, the other day, I hired someone to help me cut some small trees and limbs. The chain came off the chainsaw and I had to replace it. NEVER occured to me to NOT pay him for having to wait on me to fix the chainsaw.
Imagine the world of judges.
Courthouses have security screening. Imagine what happens to an attorney/defendant/self-representing person who is stuck in a security clog.
The judge does not care.
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The Judge and attorneys don’t go through security they go around ... the people that aren’t “court officers” do ...
That doesn’t make sense. You hired somebody to cut small trees and limbs and you had to fix the chainsaw?
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