No matter what "Jackie" said, we should generally believe rape claims.

Washington Post ^ | 12/06/2014 | Zerlina Maxwel

[CatherineofAragon]

I used to read Rolling Stone when I was young, dumb, and politically ignorant.

[Tax-chick]

I have to think Jefferson would be stunned at the concept of women who can drink men under the table.

They can't. Facts of biochemistry ... unless the woman is gigantic, she's going to be impaired before most men are. (I have a college-age son with almost zero body fat, and he knows he can't handle more than two beers.)

There were women who got smashed and had sex promiscuously in Jefferson's day (usually for money). They were called whores or sluts or prostitutes. We're supposed to pretend there's nothing wrong with any of this, now.

[CatherineofAragon]

"I don't suppose the RS article said "Jackie" had gone to Southern Baptist schools in Big Stone Gap and didn't know how babies were made, did it?"

LOL! No, it didn't.

(Just FYI, Big Stone Gap is a fun light read. I love Adriana Trigiani's books).

[almcbean]

Zerlina Maxwell killed my cat

[Tax-chick]

I went to Governor’s School at Virginia Tech in 1983 with a girl from Big Stone Gap. That’s why I thought of it. She was a beautiful girl, with huge, innocent, blue eyes, and very sweet ... but for students from the Norfolk area or the DC suburbs, she was like an alien.

[Tax-chick]

I used to read Cosmopolitan when I was young, dumb, and politically ignorant.

When RS is being delivered, I usually take it straight from the mailbox to the trashbin, but sometimes there's an article about a musician who interests me.

[CatherineofAragon]

"I went to Governor’s School at Virginia Tech in 1983 with a girl from Big Stone Gap. That’s why I thought of it. She was a beautiful girl, with huge, innocent, blue eyes, and very sweet ... but for students from the Norfolk area or the DC suburbs, she was like an alien."

No doubt. I miss the days when this area was like another planet to those types..now it's beginning to resemble them.

[CatherineofAragon]

Yep, I read Cosmopolitan, too...and Vogue.

[Tax-chick]

Yes, times have changed.

[CatherineofAragon]

"Tucker Carlson has some first-hand experience of this kind of thing. Some years ago a woman accused him of having raped her on a table in a crowded restaurant in a city he had never been to in his life. His employer gave him no support. He eventually got the bogus accusation thrown out and was only out the $10,000 it cost him in legal fees. Apparently the woman was a nutcase who knew him only from having seen him on TV."

Good grief, I never heard about that. Good for him for beating the false charges..I wish he had been able to get his money back somehow.

Do you know if MSNBC was the employer? I know he used to have a show on that channel before it went full-blown insane.

[Ronin]

So, fake but accurate? Or something.

[gingerbread]

I do believe that these organizations in Virgina that had been falsely accused by this woman has a right to sue the Rolling Stone and that woman. Isn’t this similar to the “TAWANA BRAWLEY: incident? Both Tawana and that “RACE PIMP” Al Sharpton had to pay a huge sum of money to the accused cops.

[Verginius Rufus]

I don't remember who his employer was--it was some time back so perhaps pre-MSNBC. I think I read about it in a column he wrote for The Weekly Standard. I just checked his biography on Wikipedia and there is a brief mention of the incident near the end of the piece--it says he talked about it in his autobiography.

[CatherineofAragon]

Thank you.

[Arm_Bears]

Two back-to-back high profile, and totally bogus, accounts of campus rape (UVA and Lena Dunham), yet we should generally believe rape claims.

Not bloody likely.

On a related note, Mrs. Bears graduated from UVA in the late 70’s. At that time they had in place a provincial system known as the student honor code. Included among honor code violations was lying.

Wonder if the system still exists and whether it will be applied to “Jackie.”

[refermech]

Women are screwing themselves...

[catnipman]

“No matter what Jackie said, we should generally believe rape claims”

Why? Shouldn’t the evidence be examined first before rushing to judgement? What’s so special about putative rape victims that they get exempted from common sense standards? Also, I’m wondering if this proposed standard to “generally believe rape claims” will apply to any criminal proceedings that might be brought against alleged perpetrators? Are you advocating that the judge instruct the jury of rape trials to “generally believe rape claims”? If not, why not? Is only the gullible public supposed to apply your new standard, then,but not the law?

BTW, given the complete lack of credibility of the RS article on most of its salient points, why should we even believe that “Jackie” exists and wasn’t just made up too, like the rest of the story? Should we “generally believe rape claims” by fake people, too?

[freeandfreezing]

One significant issue with the story was that the crime she claimed she was a victim of was so horrific, there was no way it shouldn’t have been investigated and dealt with in the criminal justice system.

That is certainly true. Anyone hearing her story should have insisted that further action be taken - either to arrest the perpetrators, or if the story seemed implausible, to get appropriate psychological help for Jackie.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I was raped by the Washington Post!

[Henry Hnyellar]

...one of the most difficult and critical issues facing higher education today... Absurdly high tuition for indoctrination passing for education is not one of the most, eh?