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With executive action, Obama risks losing Chief Justice John Roberts
latimes ^ | Dec. 1, 2014 | David G. Savage

Posted on 12/01/2014 9:54:08 AM PST by PROCON

President Obama always knew his plan to shield millions of immigrants from deportation would enrage Republicans on Capitol Hill who oppose most of what he does..

But by claiming the power to forge ahead based on his executive authority, the president may well lose the one conservative he still really needs: Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.

Two years ago, the chief justice surprised many by joining liberals on the court to uphold the constitutionality of Obama's Affordable Care Act. And he probably holds the deciding vote in a second legal challenge to the healthcare law — one that seeks to eliminate government insurance subsidies to low- and middle-income enrollees in two-thirds of the nation.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; johnroberts; scotus
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Hasn't Obama been struck down 12 times or so by the Supremes?

The Chief Justice needs to uphold the Constitution.

1 posted on 12/01/2014 9:54:08 AM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON

One forgets....4 others sided with Roberts.


2 posted on 12/01/2014 9:56:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: PROCON

Whatever was used to blackmail him into voting for the ACA is probably still a viable threat to Roberts and his cushy job.... My guess is the White Hut isn’t too awfully worried about this.


3 posted on 12/01/2014 9:57:55 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: PROCON

after the ‘obamacare is tax’ debacle John Roberts has been compromised.

either his out of country adoptions or he’s gay.

either way he has been turned once and may be turned again.


4 posted on 12/01/2014 9:58:58 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: PROCON

And this really, really bothers him.


5 posted on 12/01/2014 9:59:03 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: PROCON

> “But by claiming the power to forge ahead based on his executive authority, the president may well lose the one ***conservative*** he still really needs: Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.”

Roberts a Conservative?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Stop it! You’re killing me!


6 posted on 12/01/2014 9:59:16 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: PROCON

Roberts maybe the 2nd most hated man in America.

He sure has betrayed our constitution for his convenience.


7 posted on 12/01/2014 10:00:19 AM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: Sacajaweau

Good point. Guess the latimes knows that Roberts heart wasn’t in it.


8 posted on 12/01/2014 10:01:12 AM PST by uncitizen (I weep for my country)
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To: Vaquero

Could be both.


9 posted on 12/01/2014 10:02:49 AM PST by surrey
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To: ArtDodger

Roberts made his bed with the ACA ruling and I think the fix was in since Romney did his own version in MA as governor.

ACA is a bailout for hospitals and health insurance companies by forcing everyone to buy insurance at new higher rates. Medicaid is expanded through contracts with private insurance companies lining their pockets again with more money going to the hospitals to cover the costs of those without insurance who showed up at their doors.

The hospitals and insurance companies needed cash infusion and Romney the Republican and Obama the Democrat helped them. Obama’s version has a lot of progressive liberal bells and whistles in it, but it takes more money out of everyone’s wallets to feed the health care industry.

And Roberts the good Republican W Bush GOPe appointee knew all this and ruled accordingly.


10 posted on 12/01/2014 10:06:07 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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” the president may well lose the one conservative he still really needs”

Umm, don’t these authors even stop for a moment to think about what they are writing? If the marxist president is at risk for losing a previous ally, that ally is not a conservative!

Idiots.


11 posted on 12/01/2014 10:06:17 AM PST by CSM
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To: PROCON

Whatever Roberts truly is, the word Conservative would not be used to describe it. His materialization of “It’s a Tax” after the Liberal side had argued that it wasn’t, revealed him to be anything but a Conservative.

In the future when he’s labeled a Conservative, remember that John McCain is also.

Those labels are used to destroy the label, not reveal the man.


12 posted on 12/01/2014 10:10:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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13 posted on 12/01/2014 10:12:37 AM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: Vaquero

Because it is not possible he believed it was a tax? Silly conspiracy coot.


14 posted on 12/01/2014 10:19:59 AM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: PROCON

The disgraceful idiot Gruber recently proved Roberts was correct - it was a tax, the fact that Democrats lied to the contrary notwithstanding.


15 posted on 12/01/2014 10:22:08 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nextrush

What part of “hospitals and physicians will simply have to get by on less money” do you not understand?

More money for hospitals?

Let me get this straight, you think a plan devised by Leftists without hospital administrator’s, physician’s, or pharmacist’s input, was designed to benefit hospitals?

More regulation. More hoops. More government funded health care with very slim to nothing in the way of profits. Yes more DRG types of government oversight will certainly benefit private enterprise. /s

You’re wrong.


16 posted on 12/01/2014 10:23:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (GOP. GOPe. GOPeGads! GOPeWWWWWWWWWWWWW...)
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To: ArtDodger

Obama doesn’t need to blackmail anyone, he has an entire army of alphabet soup agencies full of loyal progressive minions at his disposal, to do his bidding, and the courts and congress know it. This fact is lost on most people, who think that the rule of law or the Constitution still apply.

This is how the mafia works, this is how regimes take control, this how dictators rise to power, and this how the Germans elected a madman as chancellor.

Control has been concentrated in the executive branch, which controls the army, and the collection of taxes, a dangerous combination.


17 posted on 12/01/2014 10:26:51 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Agreed. However, I didn’t say Obama was going to blackmail anyone. I said he wasn’t too worried about Roberts not doing what he is told.


18 posted on 12/01/2014 10:30:35 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: PROCON
The Chief Justice needs to uphold the Constitution.

If the administration "owned" Roberts and his bizarre decision on the first Obamacare case, one would think they can still commpel his vote.

Accordingly, Roberts' decision in this case will tell us a great deal.

19 posted on 12/01/2014 10:34:25 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: PROCON

Roberts reasoning on Obamacare was clearly corrupt. If a law is unconstitutional (in Obamacare’s case, lack of power of Congress to act under the Commerce Clause), you cannot then say you can still enforce the unconstitutional law through the taxing power.

That’s pretty basic constitutional law, known as the “unconstitutional conditions doctrine,” mainly from a case called Nolan v. California Coastal Commission. There, the CCC tried to deny a remodeling permit unless the homeowner gave rights to use a portion of their land for a lateral beach access. The Supreme Court said the direct action would have been an unconstitutional taking of property (forcing the landowner to give rights in the land). Since it was unconstitutional, forcing the landowner to give the land in exchange for getting a permit was likewise unconstitutional.

Under Robert’s rationale, the taxing power can be used now to force people to comply with all sort of illegal and unlawful actions of the government.


20 posted on 12/01/2014 10:34:54 AM PST by kaehurowing
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