Ferguson grand jury papers full of inconsistencies (LOL reading!)

AP ^ | 27 Nov 14 | HOLBROOK MOHR, DAVID A. LIEB and PHILLIP LUCAS

[SkyPilot]

Some witnesses said Michael Brown had been shot in the back. Another said he was face-down on the ground when Officer Darren Wilson "finished him off." Still others acknowledged changing their stories to fit published details about the autopsy or admitted that they did not see the shooting at all.

An Associated Press review of thousands of pages of grand jury documents reveals numerous examples of statements made during the shooting investigation that were inconsistent, fabricated or provably wrong. For one, the autopsies ultimately showed Brown was not struck by any bullets in his back.

Prosecutors exposed these inconsistencies before the jurors, which likely influenced their decision not to indict Wilson in Brown's death.

Bob McCulloch, the St. Louis County prosecutor, said the grand jury had to weigh testimony that conflicted with physical evidence and conflicting statements by witnesses as it decided whether Wilson should face charges.

"Many witnesses to the shooting of Michael Brown made statements inconsistent with other statements they made and also conflicting with the physical evidence. Some were completely refuted by the physical evidence," McCulloch said.

The decision Monday not to charge Wilson with any crime set off more violent protests in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson and around the country, fueled by claims that the unarmed black 18-year-old was shot while surrendering to the white officer in the mostly African-American city.

What people thought were facts about the Aug. 9 shooting have become intertwined with what many see as abuses of power and racial inequality in America.

And media coverage of the shooting's aftermath made it into the grand jury proceedings. Before some witnesses testified, prosecutors showed jurors clips of the same people making statements on TV.

Their inconsistencies began almost immediately after the shooting...

[Enterprise]

In duh city of duh jolly... (Ho - ho - ho)

Heard about the Jolly Gentle Giant (blunts)
He's so big and mean (cigarillos)
He stands there laughin' with his hands on his hips
And then he hits you with a tight clenched fist

He lives down there in his city (Ferguson)
The cat stands tall and fat (pizza)
Well, he ain't no prize, pants down below his thighs
So buzzed he don't know where he's at

One day he left His valley slum
I mean to say This cat was dumb
Now listen 'round He wasn't gone long Bob
And then stole from a Stop 'N Rob
Well, this changed his whole damned day (reefer)
Cause he pushed the little clerk away (THC)
Well, he then fought Wilson
And Wilson shot his hand
But Wilson almost passed out from the fight
He looked at Wilson Thought, "what a hillbilly"
He charged at him, Wilson shot him silly
Brown did not expect to be a kilee

Heard about the Jolly Gentle Giant (Joints)
He’s so big and mean (Swishers)
He stood there punching, hitting Wilson in the head
In the end he wound up stone cold dead

[elpadre]

every witness is judged by degree of reliability - some witnesses are very reliable while others have no reliability. Each juror must make that determination.

If I have a history of lying and stealing then I have no reliability for telling the truth,

[Enterprise]

Thank you thank you, all I desire is a box of Swisher Sweets.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

Reminds me of a passage from Twain's "Tom Sawyer":

"Spunk-water! I wouldn't give a dern for spunk-water."

"You wouldn't, wouldn't you? D'you ever try it?"

"No, I hain't. But Bob Tanner did."

"Who told you so!"

"Why, he told Jeff Thatcher, and Jeff told Johnny Baker, and Johnny told Jim Hollis, and Jim told Ben Rogers, and Ben told a nigger, and the nigger told me. There now!"

"Well, what of it? They'll all lie. Leastways all but the nigger. I don't know him. But I never see a nigger that wouldn't lie.

[bobby.223]

That was great! Those so called prof. comedy writers can’t hang with you!

[Enterprise]

Thank you, that one could have been better, but I got stuck in parts. Did my best.

[harpu]

Here's a LINK to ALL TRANSCRIPTS presented to (and testimonies) the Ferguson Grand Jury.

[harpu]

Check out Witness #10 (an apparent black man) transcript

[urbanpovertylawcenter]

Crab mentality then explains the Mark Twain saying which goes something like this”

“No man can stand success, another’s that is.”

[SkyPilot]

But when later pressed by the investigator, the friend said he had not seen the actual shooting because he was walking down the stairs at the time and instead had heard details from someone in the apartment complex. "What you are saying you saw isn't forensically possible based on the evidence," the investigator told the friend. Shortly after that, the friend asked if he could leave. "I ain't feeling comfortable," he said.

The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked make themselves a stench and bring shame on themselves.

Proverbs 13:5

[SkyPilot]

Thanks.

[SkyPilot]

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Wow. But to arrest this person selling stolen property might be racist. You might have Eric Holder sending 50 FBI agents to investigate the arresting officer for "civil rights violations."

It is time to admit something in this nation: we stopped being a nation of Equal Protection Under the Law when we decided to give one group "special rights and protection" over other groups, based solely on race.

Now we are reaping the "benefits" of that twisted evil. We have millions of people in this nation who never thought they had to be held responsible by anyone, any institution, or by God. They were "special."

[lefty-lie-spy]

Nice work there. I suspect Holder’s people are on top of it as well.

[italianquaker]

I was wondering when the looter guy would show up, lol

[FirstFlaBn]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370951-interview-witness-35.html

See page 35 for the FBI agent warning the witness - again - about lying.

See page 37 for the magic word ‘cursive.’

This witness has no place to live, yet he shows up for the interview with an attorney. Wonder who paid for that? She is almost as illiterate as the county detective and the FBI agent conducting the interview.

The WaPo was so upset this morning about Ferguson police procedures - wonder how upset they are at this embarrassing exchange.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Perhaps a LITTLE less

[HiTech RedNeck]

It has been Democrats egging this on. When keeping the black man down by slavery and Jim Crow didn’t fly any more, bribing him to be dependent did.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Or are they behind it?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Even without individually moralizing we can see how most of the furor spread, it was by rumor.

[catnipman]

“Ferguson grand jury papers full of inconsistencies”

Nope. Grand jury “papers” weren’t full of inconsistencies: the GJ papers were perfectly consistent. However, there were obviously plenty of witnesses committing perjury. AP just couldn’t bring themselves to write an honest headline.