Posted on 11/27/2014 6:42:56 AM PST by Cheerio
You want to be able to attack those that don't agree with you, and not have to hear that what you are doing isn't working.
I'm telling you that you can forget that, forget politeness. You are going to continue to lose when you run liberal republicans.
/johnny
You insist that I do it your way, and that isn't going to happen. For me and lots of folks like me.
Your party has managed to lose 2 presidential elections. Are you going to go for 3?
/johnny
You know they will. Republican Party: Whig Party Redux.
/johnny
...all we’ve done is swallow....
The problem with voting for the lesser evil is that it emboldens them. If Romney would of lost by a landslide, that would of been a clear message, but since he lost by so little, it makes rinos think that they can try the same thing again.
I would love nothing better than see a true conservative elected as President. However, I am not disillusioned into thinking that a true conservative President will cure America's ills. It's a national problem. Look at how much the moral fabric of America has dissolved. Too many Americans believe we are becoming more enlightened when the exact opposite is the reality. We are sinking into the darkness.
While I admit that I am registered as a Republican, I am an American first, a conservative second, and a Republican third. I feel very betrayed by the establishment now controling the Republican Party. I also feel betrayed by a lot of American citizens who select what the establishment want.
I'm no fan of Mitt, and never have been, in my opinion though he would have been better for this country and her citizens than Obama has been. For that reason and that reason alone I voted for him. I knew he wasn't a conservative, but I also knew he wasn't a socialist.
There are lots of things I want, but I always supply my needs first over my wants. I need what is best for my country and us, her citizens. In turn that person will be best for the world as well. I want a conservative who knows how to lead this country. When I am unable to vote for the conservative I want, I then vote for the leader this country needs, in opposition to the leader this country cannot afford having.
I could only wish the Republican Party were my party, for it would look a lot different than it does. It would have a clear concise platform of what it stands for, and would be guided by a strong moral compass. It would stand with conservatives and conservative philosophies. It would lead with morality to enrich the country and her citizens that ideally would spread to more of the world. It would not be led by the lust for power. That's my goal. It's a lofty goal for sure and may be unobtainable. It's not a goal I will ever see in my lifetime, but I would like to see the spark at least develop and start creating the embers from which a sustainable fire will emerge.
I guess you think I am insisting that conservatives stop fighting one another, but it is really more of a suggestion. As far as doing it my way, I'm not sure what you are talking about. I am talking about us, conservatives, defining a goal we can agree on and meeting that goal. For example, I think our goal should have been to defeat Obama. If I can't get the conservative I want, then I set my sights on getting the person who is the most conservative of the viable choices available. Once that simple goal is obtained than conservatives build on that towards our next goal. Like I said it is going to take time, it is not going to happen in one election and it certainly isn't going to be the election of a single person.
Obama didn't really affect the changes in America, that has been a slow process that has taken decades. He was just the recipient of a path with very little resistance. A path too many Americans made possible thanks to propaganda by the press, dumbing down of our educational systems, and the erosion of faith in God. It has been a very clever methodical plan, most likely created by the Russians, carried out over time to destroy America. Obama was just the last piece of the puzzle to make these changes finally possible. Changes that were unthinkable even 10 years ago. He and his fellow Democrats cared only for power and wealth, and didn't have any concerns about what was sacrificed or destroyed in their quest. The least of their concerns were the middle class, the entrenched poor, or America.
If conservatives work together and place their faith in God, I believe we can overcome this well thought out & executed plan. If we keep fighting amongst ourselves there is no hope of succeeding. I'm an old man who is getting older by the minute, so it's not for me nor is it my plan. It is merely my suggestions. Sometimes you have to take a route that is not the most desired route, but if it keeps getting you closer to your destination than you are making progress in the right direction.
Well I guess I have rambled on long enough, and most likely too long. But I didn't know how to say it in a clever sound bite.
Did you bump your head before you wrote that?
You won't ever do that by voting for a liberal republican in any election. Voting for liberal republicans only encourages them to run more liberal candidates because they KNOW they can count on your vote.
I don't reward bad behavior.
I will do everything I can to politically destroy liberal republicans so that they never win another race, primary or general.
Conservatives won't get them all the first time around, but eventually, running as a liberal republican will be a political kiss of death.
You vote for liberal republicans and claim you are trying to save the nation. That isn't realism. That is rationalization.
If you vote for a liberal republican, you are voting for a liberal.
If you vote for a liberal, you ARE a liberal.
/johnny
Okay,the article you linked does not say what the headline implies. I am not a Romney fan, but I don’t believe putting words in his mouth in this case is helpful. The article says he thinks the GOP should pass border security first, pass something to deal with those already here next (he doesn’t say amnesty), and then pass clearer laws to deal with any additional illegals. You may not agree with his suggestions, but his statements, as reported by Breitbart, are not unreasonable.
More like Defeat Obama Headquarters. I didn't like McCain or Romney, though Romney was better than McCain (in my opinion). I refuse to send the Republican Party (that included McCain & Romney) any money, and have ignored their pleas for donations for a long time now. But I will always vote for the lesser of two evils. Someone who votes for a 3rd party candidate can pat themselves on the back and proclaim they voted their principles, but in reality they did nothing, because no 3rd party candidate for President has ever been elected. Thus they aided the greater of two evils if it prevails. Evil can only survive when good men do nothing.
I always vote too, as that is my responsibility as an American. So when I don't vote for the lesser of two evils the likelihood that I get the greater of two evils becomes more of a possibility, and the greater of two evils then absolutely becomes emboldened.
The lesser of two evils also is easier to control.
The same reasoning, defeat Obama, was most likely the case for a majority of those who voted for Romney and post on this board, though I cannot be sure that is the case. Because during the primaries there were groups supporting each of the various different candidates. After the primaries there was a slow migration to Mitt.
I think it is safe to say that the country would be better off today had Obama been defeated. Would it be where I would like to see it be? Odds on favorite is most likely not. With Obama at the helm it is definitely not.
I strongly disagree with Mitt on this issue as I did with Reagan in 1986. Whenever you reward or ignore bad or illegal behavior more of it rises to the surface. That's a truism that has stood the test of time.
Allow the Obola illegal amnesty for illegals and it will trigger many tidal waves of illegals, all coming to join the USSA FSArmy...and vote Dem.
Hey idiot Romney, you think Amnesty creating est. 35 million new Dem voters is good for your Party? Which is, which Party?
The Dems? Well, then yes, Amnesty will turn the USSA Dem.
Note how Obola is distribuing illegals to all States?
Wonder why?
Hey Ronney, come to California (aka Mexifornia) where the Repub Party loses every (including this very last and recent election) election...get enough Mexicans and related, and the Repubs will never win again...just like here in Mexifornia, the land of sunshine and free sh*t.
Most of America are working class whites, traditional values, etc.
What Party represents ordinary Americans?
The Dem Party is the Party of the FSArmy, illegals, Minorities, hard core lunitic Leftists, Flat Earth Environmentalists, Blacks and Muslims.
So no interest in representing normal Americans there.
The Repub Party is the Party of the U.S.Chamber of Commerce (who want cheap labor) and want, but will never get, the FSArmy/Mexican vote.
There is currently nobody, except the Tea Party, that cares about the average American.
The Repub leadership is either mental idiots, sold out, blackmailed out, or other....and do not represent the American people.
BTW, notice how when a Black thug gets shot doing thuggery, the Blacks all support the thug. Well, there is an old saying, “Birds of a feather, flock together.”
Says that most Blacks are bad too...not only fail to police their own, but idolize their thugs.
Listen we can go back and forth like this forever. I understand your points, but I think that solution is like someone cutting off their nose to spite their face. Not only is it damaging the liberal Republican, but the country, and her citizens as well. Or do you feel the country as a whole is better off with Obama in control?
Like I said it is a moot point now, and I think there was enough fraud and corruption for Obama that it probably didn't make a difference how you voted.
I want to thank you for the stimulating conversation. It gives me something to ponder about. Let's both pray the citizens select the best for the Republicans Party regardless of what the Stupid Party favors in 2016. It happened in 1980 and we can pray it happens again.
Have a good evening Johnny.
They aren't now.
I, and others like me, will work to politically destroy your liberal republicans even in the general election.
If your party runs another liberal, you are responsible for Hillary! or whoever the Dems run.
I don't chose between liberals. I try to politically destroy them all.
/johnny
Anyone hiring an illegal when caught should forfeit his US citizenship to the illegal alien and the ex-”entrepreneur” deported to home country of the former illegal employee.
The people that live in NH,SC,IA and FL have a special responsibility to wed out rino’s. by the time it gets to VA the primary is over. The first primaries should be in the reddest state from stats of the previous election.
Keep up the good fight and maybe we will win this time. We lost the fight in California 20 years ago and I lived to see this state transformed into a 3rd world colony.
If this current massive wave of illegal foreign nationals isn’t sent packing back to their home countries then what happened to California will happen to the rest of the country. And it will happen quickly. There will be no second chance.
If people fall for the sob stories and feel sorry for foreign nationals who willfully entered the USA and broke dozens of laws to stay here illegally then we will lose the country. They don’t feel grateful to us. They think we are weak, that we are chumps, and that we owe them whatever they want. Come to California and see your future.
A. WITH cell phones and the internet ... one no longer has to live in a state to join a campaign effort.
I usually do NH ... but it is only 90 miles from me. I get a pre-pay phone with a NH phone number. It is a bit of challenge if you are not at all close to any early state.
The libs seem to do it. Obambi had his Chicago Vols phone banking into Iowa.
B. The other challenge is that there is a certain “corruption” in NH and IA. The states have permanent organizations in place for the purpose of presidential primaries. And the organizations have been co-opted by the national groups ... filled with self-seeking, conflicts of interest, and ulterior motives. So the citizens who are legitimately trying to approach this without a bias or self-interest ... they are overwhelmed by the powers that be.
If I were a Christian in Iowa I would be genuinely sick of the know-it-all few that run the show in evangelical circles.
No argument with that - better than Romney and 200 times better than Obama or a Hillary.
And what are you if you knowingly allow an Obama or one like him to stick around to actively destroy the Freedom of the People when there is a less toxic choice?
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