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It’s Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson’s Just Did
Five Thirty Eight Politics ^ | 11/25/2014 | BEN CASSELMAN

Posted on 11/26/2014 7:45:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I thought that St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch stated during the reading of his statement and then again in the question and answer segment that by law the breakdown of the vote was not to be released. Did anyone else get that?


21 posted on 11/26/2014 8:12:05 PM PST by MWestMom (Down, down, down the rabbit hole we go.....)
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To: SeekAndFind
From everything I've heard and read, such info is kept secret.

I could've sworn I heard Megyn Kelly say the decision was unanimous but I haven't been able to find the video.

22 posted on 11/26/2014 8:13:19 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

The cop should’ve been indicted, IF HE HADN’T shot the perp attacking him with intent to kill.


23 posted on 11/26/2014 8:15:39 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Sooth2222

Sooth,
You are exactly right. The reason it is rare not to indict is because prosecutors don’t bring cases this weak except for extraordinary reasons, i.e., politics.

Oldplayer


24 posted on 11/26/2014 8:22:29 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

The Austin, Texas District Attorney is an example of a prose htor using indictments to achieve what Democrats cant do politically.
Remember what Tom DeLay went through before he was exonerated?

Now its Rick Perry who is the target.


25 posted on 11/26/2014 8:34:57 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: MWestMom

yes i heard same..cant be released also heard them say it had to be 9 out 12 agreeing to bring charges

Mike


26 posted on 11/26/2014 8:36:46 PM PST by MikeinMotley
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To: SeekAndFind

That information is not recorded for public consumption.

The reason that this jury decided the way it did is because they were given ALL the evidence available. Nothing was cherry picked and nothing was withheld. Hence, they came to the conclusion based on THE EVIDENCE


27 posted on 11/26/2014 8:37:23 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Ironfocus

It was stated from the start that this GJ would be getting all available evidence as it was collected so the No Bill is actually credible.

Of course it wasn’t the “correct” decision so now they’re trying to trash its work and that of the Prosecutor. So typical of the lefties.


28 posted on 11/26/2014 8:56:20 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: SeekAndFind

Michael Brown’s mother may face felony armed robbery charges: report

Lesley McSpadden allegedly led a group of 20 to 30 people to a tent in a parking lot in Ferguson, Mo. on Oct. 18 to beat and rob vendors selling ‘Justice for Michael Brown’ merchandise.
BY Marc Weinreich
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 11:15 AM
Updated: Friday, November 7, 2014, 3:52 PM

The mother of Michael Brown could be charged with felony armed robbery for allegedly attacking people in a Ferguson, Mo., parking lot because they were selling T-shirts honoring the late teenager.

The Ferguson Police Department is currently investigating claims that Lesley McSpadden brought a group of people — including her own mother — to beat vendors and rob them of their “Justice for Mike Brown” merchandise Oct. 18, The Smoking Gun has learned.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/michael-brown-mom-face-felony-armed-robbery-charges-article-1.2001373


29 posted on 11/26/2014 9:00:46 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: SeekAndFind

Then why didn’t they indict Ted Kennedy he killed a girl no doubt about it.


30 posted on 11/26/2014 9:05:13 PM PST by onthegulf
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To: driftdiver

My mother recently served on a grand jury which did not send back indictments in all the cases brought. They believed there was insufficent evidence, and in our state the prosecution only has to convince 12 out of 23 grand jurors that there is sufficient evidence for trial.


31 posted on 11/26/2014 9:41:05 PM PST by heartwood
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no idea.

My concern is that it seems most people don’t understand what a Grand Jury is or how it operates.

Tonight, Judge Alex (the former Circuit Court Judge), was on Fox, and was explaining why they went to a grand jury. He said that it was because the Prosecutor had witnesses who were lying (which he didn’t know), and he thought getting a conviction would be a slam dunk. However, when he got further into the investigation, he discovered there were several black young men who were in agreement with what Officer Wilson had said about the incident.

So, because of that, the Prosecutor decided to take it to a grand jury. When the other witnesses came forward and agreed with Wilson, the Prosecutor decided to present everything to the grand jury.

Yes, it is unusual .. but I believe it was the right choice.


32 posted on 11/26/2014 10:21:39 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: ctdonath2
This went to the GJ because simple dismissal would have garnered understandable outrage.

Why is outrage understandable?

33 posted on 11/26/2014 11:08:32 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unanimous, IIRC.


34 posted on 11/26/2014 11:46:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: itsahoot

If you think the prosecutor is refusing to prosecute actual wrongdoing, you might be understandably outraged.
If the prosecutor sends it to a GJ for review, your outrage may be mitigated knowing that some regular folk reviewed the case in more detail than you and realized there isn’t a viable case.


35 posted on 11/27/2014 4:12:26 AM PST by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: Parley Baer

No, the defendant has to be very sure of his facts to go before a grand jury. He’s sworn in before the grand jury and cannot have a defense attorney present. (no defense attorneys in the grand jury room, just the prosecutor). And he has to know that once he is sworn in, his answers to questions become evidence.

I think, if possible, every citizen who is eligible should serve on a grand jury, if possible. The process is extremely educational, and suddenly a lot of the phrases you hear in the news makes sense, and a lot of the comments by the talking heads, make no sense. Educational, very educational.

As to the breakdown of who voted what, it’s illegal to ask, and illegal for them to say. Someone may leak it later, but as of now, there were not 9 people in that room that thought the evidence was worth indicting a ham sandwich. :-)


36 posted on 11/27/2014 4:23:50 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mark Levin shed some light on the process the other day. A GJ is different than a trial. The GJ’s purpose is to seek probable cause to prosecute, whereas a trial seeks to convict beyond reasonable doubt. That being said, I would agree with the others that this was a Pontius Pilate moment by the Ferguson authorities to allow themselves to say they had done all there was to do without bringing the case to trial.


37 posted on 11/27/2014 4:32:21 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: SeekAndFind

That information was not provided by the judge overseeing the grand jury. The prosecutor made this clear in his press conference. Heck, it may not have been known by the judge, and only the 12 jury members know. Perhaps not even them, if the foreman did a secret ballot.


38 posted on 11/27/2014 4:41:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ctdonath2
knowing that some regular folk reviewed the case in more detail than you and realized there isn’t a viable case.

If they don't agree that the president indeed has committed impeachable offenses then they have not reviewed the evidence or they are brain dead, or a lawyer.

39 posted on 11/28/2014 12:02:13 AM PST by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think we will ever know the vote.


40 posted on 11/28/2014 6:52:35 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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