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Republicans Hand Obama an Immigration Political Triumph
New York Magazine ^
| 11/21/2014
| Jonathan Chait
Posted on 11/22/2014 2:05:11 PM PST by aimhigh
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My liberal brother blindsided me with the Federalist Society's concession. They apparently said it was legal, not on their website, but in a televised forum.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:05:12 PM PST
by
aimhigh
To: aimhigh
There are no serious legal questions about the administrations plan, which will temporarily legalize the status of some 4.3 million undocumented immigrants. Even lawyers for the conservative Federalist Society concede Obamas legal reasoning.Where do you go with an essay that starts like this?
A few short months ago even Obama himself was declaring the unlawful nature of what he did Thursday.
The writer is really, really dense.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:10:00 PM PST
by
skeeter
To: aimhigh
Bottom line is: the dude took precisely the action he could have taken six years ago, and wants applause for it.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:11:01 PM PST
by
ArmstedFragg
(Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
To: aimhigh
To: skeeter
An EO would be unlawful. He hasn't released one of those.
All he did is yap.
/johnny
To: aimhigh
If they play it right, it’s nothing remotely resembling an “triumph.” The only immigration-related legislation that should flow from Congress from this day forward should ONLY be that which enforces law and secures the border. The amnesty component has been reached. Nothing more.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:16:12 PM PST
by
ScottinVA
(We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
To: JRandomFreeper
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:16:42 PM PST
by
advertising guy
( Muslims, another white meat)
To: JRandomFreeper
Everything will be done through EO’s in the agencies. If we ever get a conservative in the WH revenge will be sweet. Immigration is largely under the control of the executive branch. All we can do is hope the backlogs and staff shortages reduce the numbers.
To: aimhigh
After years of legislative muddle, he was able to detach himself completely from Congress and articulate his own values. His remarks, met with rapt attention in immigrant communities, continued his rhetorical tradition of expanding the American family, accurately presenting himself (and, by extension, his party) as an ally to marginalized Americans. What a load of BS.
To: skeeter
I would think the answer to whether its a serious legal challenge would come after its adjudicated
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:18:03 PM PST
by
woofie
To: magna carta
Only the president does EOs that set nationwide executive policy.
No EO.
/johnny
To: skeeter
They aren’t stupid or dense. Its called the Big Lie, and they have it down to an art.
Just say it with confidence and people will believe you.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:18:39 PM PST
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: JRandomFreeper
What did he sign in Vegas yesterday, then?
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:18:46 PM PST
by
oblomov
To: oblomov
it was receipt for his bermuda shorts
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:19:45 PM PST
by
woofie
To: JRandomFreeper
Got an EO number? There's no EO. There's only the new laws written by Obama and passed by Obama, written on Post-it notes.
To: aimhigh
The precedent will be useful if/when a Republican takes the presidency. There are quite a few pernicious laws that can simply be unenforced.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:20:13 PM PST
by
oblomov
To: JRandomFreeper
Obama is trying to bluff people into thinking there is amnesty. If enough people believe it, it becomes reality.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:20:20 PM PST
by
Cowboy Bob
(They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
To: oblomov
Memo. A toothless memo without the force of law and that requires executive agencies to follow existing law.
If he signed an EO, give me the number. I haven't seen one.
He's been snookering and stampeding low-info types.
/johnny
To: Cementjungle
No force of law on a Post-it note.
/johnny
To: advertising guy
I have yet to see a Latino rally or gathering or ANYTHING over this non-EO. They rightly sense zero is about to rope ‘em in like he did us with zerocare.
That’s why he’s having to PUSH it on them. They don’t want it.
They like their free $hit quiet, sub-rosa and no names. They ain’t registering for *nothing*.
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posted on
11/22/2014 2:22:26 PM PST
by
txhurl
(2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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