Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

RAPPER FACES LIFE IN PRISON FOR ALBUM COVER (picture of gun)
Breitbart ^

Posted on 11/21/2014 9:12:34 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Duncan faces 25-years-to-life on gang conspiracy charges brought against him this week, according to the Los Angeles Times. Prosecutors will reportedly look to prove that the album art "willfully promotes, furthers, or assists in any felonious criminal conduct by members of that gang."

"That gang" refers to the San Diego Lincoln Park gang, of which Duncan is a member, according to San Diego police. According to the Times, at least 15 Lincoln Park gang members have been charged in a recent string of shootings in the city.

Yet Duncan's attorney, Brian Watkins, told the paper that his client is innocent and the evidence against him insufficient.

"It's no different than Snoop Dogg or Tupac," Watkins said. "It's telling the story of street life. If we are trying to criminalize artistic expression, what's next, Brian DePalma and Al Pacino?"

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albumgunphoto; albumphoto; banglist; california; duncan; guncontrol; lagang; lincolnparkgang; orwellian; rapper
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

1 posted on 11/21/2014 9:12:34 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

Much as I despise these thugs, I think that this would set a dangerous precedent.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 9:15:57 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trisham

So can they speak the word gun? Is that a crime too?

I hate gang bangers as much as the next guy but surely there are limits to government power (abuse)


3 posted on 11/21/2014 9:20:10 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: trisham

Does this rise to the level of yelling “fire” in a theatre?


4 posted on 11/21/2014 9:20:33 AM PST by Sasparilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA
"There are huge constitutional issues."

Well there's yer problem! Pay a little more attention to what's happening in the WH and you'll understand how you screwed up. Get your client some soap on a rope.

5 posted on 11/21/2014 9:21:13 AM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

This guy may deserve to be in prison but I would rather him be free than to be convicted on this. If the government doesn’t have to prove a real crime to put you in prison, how long before this same arguement is used to charge the editors of “Guns and Ammo?”


6 posted on 11/21/2014 9:21:30 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA
--idiocy--who's next--Guns and Ammo or the American Rifleman?
7 posted on 11/21/2014 9:22:06 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

Should shouting fire in a crowded movie theater be protected free speech? Why or why not. Discuss.


8 posted on 11/21/2014 9:23:29 AM PST by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SpaceBar

You are comparing this to shouting fire in a crowded theater??????


9 posted on 11/21/2014 9:24:23 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank
Guess they could have put Guns and Roses in jail too.


10 posted on 11/21/2014 9:25:15 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

Agreed.


11 posted on 11/21/2014 9:25:36 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sasparilla

I don’t see the association between the two issues.


12 posted on 11/21/2014 9:26:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

MY only question in this is, “Does Duncan have a felony record and/or on parole for something?”


13 posted on 11/21/2014 9:27:25 AM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA
"It's no different than Snoop Dogg or Tupac," Watkins said. "It's telling the story of street life. If we are trying to criminalize artistic expression, what's next, Brian DePalma and Al Pacino?"

The advocate should be careful in trying to stretch a legal concept too far.

Call Rap art maybe taking the legal notion of art as a form of speech protected by the first amendment to an absurd extreme.

Calling Rap art is laughable in its self.

ON the other hand the prosecutors are on very thin ice if they are basing their case strictly on the album cover.

14 posted on 11/21/2014 9:29:17 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

What happens to him if he chews a slice of watermelon into a gun?


15 posted on 11/21/2014 9:29:34 AM PST by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gaffer

Does that really matter? We are discussing a picture, nothing more and nothing less.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 9:29:45 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

You [and I] are about to learn the hard way that there are no limits to Government abuse if said Government chooses to abuse. The only remedy is bloodshed and thus far we, as a people, have shown that we are not willing to do that.


17 posted on 11/21/2014 9:30:43 AM PST by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: trisham
I completely agree, Trisham.

I actually hate gangsta rap. I think it is morally corrosive, and I would keep it off of any venue I controlled, and would keep it away from any degree of public support (e.g. publicly subsidized radio or platforms or schools) either direct or indirect. BUT...

Speech is still speech. It needs Constitutional protection particularly if it does not enjoy the support of the Opinionistas. Unless he were conspiring to facilitate crime, he is free to say what he pleases.

Eric Holder, on the other hand...

18 posted on 11/21/2014 9:31:10 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Lord, save Your people and bless Your inheritance; give victory to the faithful over their adversary)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA; SpaceBar
Should shouting fire in a crowded movie theater be protected free speech? Why or why not. Discuss.

If you shout it to a rap beat your covered.

;)

19 posted on 11/21/2014 9:32:14 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SpaceBar
What if there IS A FIRE in a theater? Do you shout out a warning or not?


20 posted on 11/21/2014 9:35:01 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson