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You Have to Give It to the President
National Review (Corner) ^ | 11/20/14 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:04 AM PST by madprof98

It’s a brilliant, brutally cynical near-term gambit. He delayed action until after the election, he even told everybody he was doing it! And then he completely screwed over the incoming Republican majority, making their lame-duck and first 100 days a complete pain-in-the-ass, while shoring up support among his progressive doubters who, if you watched MSNBC tonight, are back to 2008 levels of adoration.

Still, what are the Republicans going to do? Impeach him? There’s a smart-ish strategy that involves funding the rest of the government while denying DHS the funds to enforce His Majesty’s edict. But when POTUS vetoes it, what will they do then? Most likely John Boehner and Mitch McConnell will seek some face-saving move that has the effect of letting “prosecutorial discretion” proceed apace. It might be an enforcement-first measure that doesn’t require the president to actually reverse course on amnesty. Or, hey, maybe somebody will sue him, but the chief political virtue of that move is that it stretches out the proceedings along a long enough timeline that they can move on to other things, pick their next battle.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoillegals; obamaillegalsspeech
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To: SoFloFreeper
What every hand wringer (sometimes I am one) misses is this: eventually all chickens come home to roost. Legal immigrants AS WELL AS natural born citizens are not happy with this move....

First, let's hope so, because this is so unfair to those who choose the right path.

And, second, another thing that is overlooked when liberals cry about how cruel some of us are for deporting "family of American citizens (aka illegal born in USofA)" is that there are people who have dual citizenship that choose to live in one country...which IMO means that there is no reason that American citizens (aka illegal born in USofA) can't return to their parents home country with their parents.

Third, if all of our presidents are going to keep granting amnesty to all of the millions who flee to America, then let's abolish the INS and save the money.

21 posted on 11/21/2014 5:20:51 AM PST by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: Liz

22 posted on 11/21/2014 5:22:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Outrance

I’ve always said that we need to block wire transfers going into Mexico as well. At least make them spend their illegal money here


23 posted on 11/21/2014 5:22:52 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: FunkyZero
Most of the public comments revolve around “hahahha, you lose, Obama got you again”.

The episode has brought me around to Gruber's point of view. "We" are to stupid elect our own government.

24 posted on 11/21/2014 5:23:12 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: beachn4fun
There only two things I would give odumbo.

1, A court order for his arrest and deportation

2. I prefer to keep this under wraps as the "Federalizes" may be reading this.

25 posted on 11/21/2014 5:24:09 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: beachn4fun
Obeyma should be placed under house arrest today. Impeachment proceedings should begin. Try him for treason on Benghazi alone.
26 posted on 11/21/2014 5:25:29 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Liz

But what will the republicans actually do?
I predict they will scream and yell about how what Barry did was illegal, unconstitutional and downright immoral. They will bluster about passing this or that resolution or bill to “stop” him. In the end they will roll over and make some lame ass excuse about why they didn’t succeed.

What I’d love to see them do is impeach the jackass and the Senate REMOVE him from office. Even Biden would be better than Barry. But I’m not going to hold my breath. I don’t feel like passing out from lack of oxygen today.


27 posted on 11/21/2014 5:27:58 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: madprof98
If they don't stop it, we know FOR SURE that the ptb in the Republican Party will do nothing to save the US. They've been given enough rope to either hang themselves or pull the nation off the slippery slope.

Irony is, it's black US citizens who suffer the most, and their leaders are too busy defending thugs to speak out.

28 posted on 11/21/2014 5:29:10 AM PST by grania
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes, the chickens will come home to roost. Witness the 2010 and 2014 elections.

Sure, Obama won in 2012, but I still hold to the reasoning the Democrats were “not going to let the white man win” (Donna Brazile) and Romney did not inspire conservatives to come out and vote for him-more so than his election being a referendum on his policies.

Grubamacare is a dead man walking. It was based on deceptive math and assumptions that are not bearing out. Premiums are skyrocketing (if I renew the same policy I had last year, it will cost me 60% more). Upcoming court cases may doom the subsidy program and once the employer mandate kicks in, more people are going to find themselves shopping and being shocked by what they’ll have to pay for coverage.

Here’s how I think Obama will proceed in the next two years. He’ll be out there every week or so with another lame brained EO and continue claiming he has to act unilaterally because Congress can’t get anything done. That way he’ll keep himself in the spotlight and create the meme that Republicans controlling Congress is worthless.

Republicans are going to have to be quick and light on their feet to maneuver around this. They’re also going to have to get on the same page or else Obama’s going to chew them up and spit them out. These people are ruthless and they play for keeps.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 5:29:13 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: IamConservative
There's a bigger question that nobody seems to be asking:

What exactly is the upside for an illegal alien if he/she is given amnesty?

Think about it ... If given a choice between "living in the shadows" and becoming a taxpayer with all that includes (Obamacare mandates, IRS scrutiny, etc.), then why would an illegal alien opt for the latter?

I think the most comical part of this is that most illegal aliens would simply say: "No, thanks!" and continue living the way they are.

30 posted on 11/21/2014 5:29:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: madprof98

Barry should now be arrested.


31 posted on 11/21/2014 5:31:09 AM PST by jetson (Can I catch you a delicious bass...)
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To: madprof98

They are just too stupid to realize Obama “Grubered” them on immigration. Didn’t he just do what he said he didn’t have the authority to do? We’ve been Grubered again, folks.


32 posted on 11/21/2014 5:32:32 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: madprof98

0bama: The.Worst. U.S. President. Ever. (Thanks, 0bama voters.)


33 posted on 11/21/2014 5:32:38 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: DaveA37
I prefer to keep this under wraps as the "Federalizes" may be reading this.

LOL

34 posted on 11/21/2014 5:33:23 AM PST by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: madprof98
Still, what are the Republicans going to do? Impeach him?

That's a start. Follow up with criminal prosecution. That {expletive} should be wearing prison orange the rest of his life.

There’s a smart-ish strategy that involves funding the rest of the government while denying DHS the funds to enforce His Majesty’s edict. But when POTUS vetoes it, what will they do then?

Interesting how the author referred to bammy as "his majesty" - was that a slam, or adoration? Either way, yes GOP, do you job, DENY FUNDING FOR ANY OF THIS EXCREMENT! I don't care if the government shuts down. Shut it down, leave it shut down, period. Eventually bammy will blink. If not, hey, might be the best couple of years we've had. Do it.

35 posted on 11/21/2014 5:33:28 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: IamConservative
The worst effect I fear will be an even bigger flood of immigrants crossing our borders.

I think that's it in a nutshell. There's no one that will shut down our border no matter what or who the threat...

36 posted on 11/21/2014 5:34:57 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Molon Labe)
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To: chajin

The ‘rubicon’ isn’t just that he invalidated Congressional authority with this move. One could say he’d done that now for the past 4 of 6 years.

What this ‘stunt,’ and it is a ‘stunt,’ did was invalidate the ballot box.


37 posted on 11/21/2014 5:35:02 AM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: IamConservative
"We" are to stupid elect our own government.

No, we are not. We are only idiots for electing LAWYERS to all the important posts.

38 posted on 11/21/2014 5:35:20 AM PST by beachn4fun (Guns are not the problem. People are. Forget the magazine...check your attitude.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Welfare, Section 8 housing, food stamps, EITC... A plethora of bennies for the newly minted citizen lawbreaking scum.


39 posted on 11/21/2014 5:38:50 AM PST by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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To: ThunderSleeps

First off they won’t do it...shut down the government.

Second, funding goes to the Department of Homeland Security. You really want to defund that? Sure lots of stuff in the DHS makes us upset, but think long and hard about not funding the smaller agencies within the DHS. Recall the stunt he pulled the last time we shut stuff down. He’ll go after the stuff that cause the biggest political fallout.

No we need someone to go in and literally arrest the leaders of this progressive regime as traitors. And that ain’t gonna’ happen either.


40 posted on 11/21/2014 5:40:05 AM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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