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XL Keystone vote underway in Congress (Live Thread)
November 18, 2014 | Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Posted on 11/18/2014 3:03:26 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Will it or won't it pass? Stay tuned..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; energy; keystone; keystonexl; keystonexlvote; landrieu; oil; pipeline; vote
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To: Sacajaweau
Obama will be sending someone a case of beer!!

I be-headed for the store....an brought me a case o beer.....an I drunk it 0bama self.

(In anticipation of the Keystone bill passing in January)

161 posted on 11/18/2014 5:51:59 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: A Navy Vet
There is another reason for XL.

It won't be carrying Canadian oil exclusively. A significant part of the volume will be out of the Bakken Shale.

The Bakken is underserved by pipelines and is having to rely on rail transport -- relatively expensive and more subject to accidental spillage.

162 posted on 11/18/2014 5:57:16 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: DugwayDuke

>> Reid scripted this vote by deciding exactly which dems would vote for the pipeline and to ensure that it failed by one vote <<

I think you nailed it. If Reid had thought passage would insure Babyfat’s re-election, the bill would now be heading to POTUS’ desk.


163 posted on 11/18/2014 6:07:58 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: txhurl

>> why don’t all states go to Jungle Primaries? <<

Probably would require constitutional amendments in most states. In other words, it ain’t necessarily all that easy.


164 posted on 11/18/2014 6:14:47 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: txhurl
The Sioux tribe declared war today if the bill passed (there’s a thread). I’m guessing it was some Sioux kids chanting

They might want to get some pointers from the Indian Tribes of North Dakota....

An American Indian tribal group has received approval to take over a piece of land in oil-rich North Dakota and build a $400 million oil refinery.

The Three Affiliated Tribes received approval from the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Department of the Interior to take over a 469-acre piece of land near New Town in northwestern North Dakota, between Williston and Minot.

The tribes plan to use 190 acres of the land to build a refinery that will take crude oil from the nearby Bakken region and produce up to 13,000 barrels a day of diesel fuel, gasoline and propane, the Bismarck Tribune reported.

The rest of the land will be used to raise buffalo.

165 posted on 11/18/2014 6:17:40 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: spokeshave

WOW. Thanks.

Explains todays’ shenanigans. Warren needed SOME tribe to stand up and bitch.


166 posted on 11/18/2014 6:26:39 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Mary Landrieu....UNDER THE BUS!


167 posted on 11/18/2014 6:30:18 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Hawthorn

“I think you nailed it. If Reid had thought passage would insure Babyfat’s re-election, the bill would now be heading to POTUS’ desk.”

I’ve read that this kind of thing is common in the house. When there is a must pass bill which causes certain members problems back home, Pelosi would decide which members could vote against it while still ensuring the bill would pass. Of course, the members then owed her a payback vote. It only makes sense that this goes on in the Senate.

Reid has protected his members for the last few years by ensuring his members could avoid certain votes by not bring bills (budget, keystone) to the floor. This was a little trickier, he had to demonstrate that Landrieu had influence to help her in her election. But he did not want to force Obama into a position where he would have to veto the bill. Hence, failing by one vote.

Once the GOP takes the Senate, Reid can ensure it continues to fail. It will only pass if enough dems decide to buck Reid (unlikely) or if Obama decides he needs to burnish his environmental wacko credentials by vetoing. Either way, it won’t pass.


168 posted on 11/18/2014 6:45:20 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Principles without power aren't worth spit.)
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To: okie01

I didn’t know that. Thank you for the info.


169 posted on 11/18/2014 6:49:51 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: oblomov

Add Heitcamp. Thought Gillibrand and Koblacher would help Mary out.


170 posted on 11/18/2014 6:50:20 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: CPT Clay

Kobluchar


171 posted on 11/18/2014 6:54:56 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: txhurl
(More info on the Indian Tribes ND Oil Refinery....best is the comment from Tribal Chairman Tex “Red Tipped Arrow” Hall towards the end)

The refinery will provide 300 local construction jobs and 75 to 100 full-time jobs after it’s operational, officials said.

The refinery is off of Highway 23 on 469 acres northwest of Makoti the tribe bought from Bernice Nelson of Minot, N.D., who used to farm on the property with her husband. Makoti, which had a population of 154 in 2010, is about 35 miles east of New Town.

The tribe has contributed $40 million toward the transloading facility portion of the project.

The approximate $450 million total cost will be financed with bonds, said Daniel Eastman, managing director of private investment banking firm John W. Loofbourrow Associates Inc., who traveled from New York to attend the ceremony.

Tribal members and others at the event praised Tribal Chairman Tex “Red Tipped Arrow” Hall for having the vision to pursue a refinery, a plan that began 10 years ago before the Bakken oil boom. Initially the proposal called for refining Canadian tar sands, but in 2008 the plans switched to refine the tribe’s own Bakken crude.

During the celebration, Hall reflected about his ancestors.

“We grew up poor. We were lucky if we had a pair of clean overalls,” Hall said. “But our parents made sure we went to school and got educated. They did the best they could for us. They didn’t know we’d have this oil and gas resource, but now we do. It’s our responsibility to manage it and we are.”

Three Affiliated Tribes officials are talking to other tribes about inter-tribe commerce agreements to distribute diesel from its refinery.

Representatives from several tribes, including the Spokane Tribe of Indians, attended the event and are interested in distributing the diesel.

- See more at: http://www.prairiebizmag.com/event/article/id/14552/#sthash.46Fl7EDg.dpuf

172 posted on 11/18/2014 7:01:53 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Looked up Casey in the dictionary and all I saw was an empty suit.


173 posted on 11/18/2014 7:02:36 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: LS
but the Dems who voted against this will all pay (again) in 2016.

2016 is a general election, and it will result in the loss of many republican seats. Lets not forget that slightly more than 50% of voters are absolute morons who elected Hussein twice- morons that don't work don't learn...
174 posted on 11/18/2014 7:03:50 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: spokeshave

Thanks. Fauxcahontas Warren is native-turfing the XL, that is now clear.

Thank you again.


175 posted on 11/18/2014 7:07:19 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
It passed, just not with enough to over-ride[sic] a veto.

That is incorrect. It needed 60 to pass, 67 to override a veto.
176 posted on 11/18/2014 7:08:01 PM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: TexasGunLover

Well, thank you Ray Of Sunshine!


177 posted on 11/18/2014 7:09:40 PM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: TexasGunLover
It was a cloture vote, not a real floor vote.

/johnny

178 posted on 11/18/2014 7:15:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I wish Childers could have voted.


179 posted on 11/18/2014 7:41:42 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
The LIV’s think that keystone is something they put in their car radiator.

Keystone makes auto-body repair panels.

180 posted on 11/18/2014 8:44:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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