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“Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo” (Movie Review-11/16/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/16/44 | Bosley Crowther

Posted on 11/16/2014 4:15:48 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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KEYWORDS: history; moviereview; realtime
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1 posted on 11/16/2014 4:15:48 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 11/16/2014 4:16:16 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Netflix has this movie on DVD. The U.S. Army Air Force and Navy helped out on this movie so there is some great footage of B-25’s and film from the actual mission way back in 1942.

Original trailer

3 posted on 11/16/2014 4:17:28 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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As a youngster around 8-10, this movie fascinated me. I can also remember as a teenager in Dayton, Ohio the Raiders reunion was held there sometime in the late fifties. At that point many or most of the 82 (I think) raiders were alive and were there. The papers were full of interviews and the even then before talk radio, they appeared on several stations. I was just Agog.

Now I think there are only 2 or three of the wonderful, brave men left and I think David Thatcher, played by Robert Walker in the movie is one of the three.


4 posted on 11/16/2014 4:52:20 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww58PQ2_LVY


5 posted on 11/16/2014 5:01:26 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

One of my all time favorite movies. I love the part where Ted Lawson finds out he is a new dad, and they sing rock-a-bye-baby as the plane rocks from side to side in the sky...


6 posted on 11/16/2014 5:02:42 AM PST by rlmorel (The Media's Principles: Conflict must exist. Doesn't exist? Create it. Exists? Exacerbate it.)
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One of my all time favorites.


7 posted on 11/16/2014 5:45:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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From what I understand the original B-25 loaned by the Army to MGM to portray the “Ruptured Duck” has been found in storage. It was an older model B-25, and the military never asked for it back after the filming. It was disassembled and has been passed around for years.


8 posted on 11/16/2014 5:50:35 AM PST by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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Along with “30 Seconds” I like “The Best Years of Our Lives,” the ultimate coming home movie.


9 posted on 11/16/2014 5:53:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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Actual combat footage of the raid was used in the bombing run sequence and the “special effects” are fantastic for that era. Great film, daring raid, heroes all...


10 posted on 11/16/2014 6:08:17 AM PST by Netz
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo” movie trivia from IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037366/trivia?ref_=tt_ql_2

When Lawson’s plane arrives in “Tokyo” and sees the fire and smoke from the previous bomber, Davy Jones, we are not looking at a special effect. During the making of the film, there was a fuel-oil fire in Oakland, near the filming location. The quick-thinking filmmakers scrambled to fly their camera plane and B-25 through the area, capturing some very real footage for the movie.

The real Ted Lawson showed-up the day the scenes of Van Johnson’s character (Ted Lawson) was having his leg amputated. The mood around the set was quiet and tense.

Twice while the Ruptured Duck is flying over Japan the crew spots Japanese fighter planes and tenses for an attack, but both times the fighters ignore them. This is factual. In an unbelievable coincidence, the Japanese had planned a major air raid drill for the same time in Tokyo, and the fighters thought the American B-25s were part of the drill until the bombs started exploding. Also, according to the book upon which the movie is based the planes’ crews were told prior to the mission that there was a slight chance that the Japanese would not recognize them and react because the Japanese air force had a bomber very similar to the B-25.

The Japanese fishermen fired on by the U.S. Navy escort ships did in fact have time to alert Tokyo, but their transmission was ignored. An urgent report of two American aircraft carriers so close to Japan by understandably hysterical “ignorant” fisherman was scorned as ridiculous by Japanese authorities.

The scars visible on Van Johnson’s forehead at the end of the film are not makeup, they’re real. He was involved in a near-fatal car accident the previous year just after filming A Guy Named Joe (1943). The filmmakers chose to accentuate rather than hide these scars for the post-mission half of the movie, since his character Ted Lawson was quite banged up, too. They’re particularly evident in the last scene of the movie when he’s on the floor talking with his wife.


11 posted on 11/16/2014 6:30:49 AM PST by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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I remember that movie. A little. I guess I could watch it again.


12 posted on 11/16/2014 6:32:57 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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there was a slight chance that the Japanese would not recognize them and react because the Japanese air force had a bomber very similar to the B-25

didn't the Japanese buy the plans for it or something?

13 posted on 11/16/2014 6:43:25 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I rented this movie from Netflix during the summer of 2013. Sometimes it is best to have lowered expectations when watching an old movie like this, but I was very impressed with the quality of this film. Highly recommended, especially for those who take pride in American history.


14 posted on 11/16/2014 6:47:08 AM PST by Dan in Wichita
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Thanks — I’ll be watching it later today!


15 posted on 11/16/2014 6:53:04 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with an axe)
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My father has a connection to this. . . and was mentioned in the book, "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo." My dad was the civilian aircraft mechanic crew-chief for the Army Air Corp charged with tuning up the engines of the planes to be used in Jimmy Doolittle's Tokyo Raid. He was told the planes's engines need to exceed their rated performance for take off.

Dad came up with the idea of using water injection on the engines as they used on the spitfires to boost horsepower. In addition they tuned the engines to the Nth degree. If they could not get a consistent 110% performance from an engine, my Dad's crew pulled the engine and replaced it with a new one. His mention in the book by Ted Lawson came when Dad's crew was working on the Ruptured Duck. The Duck was tethered to the ground and Dad was revving the engines beyond the red line. Lawson was livid at what was being done to his beloved plane, unaware of his future mission and why theses mechanics were "abusing" his aircraft. Lawson went after my dad for the abuse.

Dad also worked on the Enola Gay and Bockscar.

One of dad's young crewmen, who lived on our block, worked on a camera chase plane shortly after it had flown through the mushroom cloud of the Nagasaki bomb, and even though they had been strongly warned to not touch anything on the plane that could leave any residue on them, made the mistake of wiping his hands on an oil rag he found in the plane. Twenty years later he started having severe problems with tumors on his hands. The tumors only developed where he had wiped that rag and no where else. His doctors were convinced the tumors were related to that incident with the rag.

16 posted on 11/16/2014 11:58:05 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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“Dad also worked on the Enola Gay and Bockscar. “


Cool ! Those guys were something.

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17 posted on 11/16/2014 11:59:57 AM PST by Mears
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One of the best WWII movies, for sure.

The scriptwriter, Dalton Trumbo, was a member of the CPUSA and was one of the blacklisted writers later. At this time, however, the commies were fully supporting the U.S. military as we were allied with their beloved Uncle Joe.

18 posted on 11/18/2014 1:45:33 PM PST by colorado tanker
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