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Reagan, Bush also acted alone to shield immigrants (AP obfuscation again)
Associated Press ^ | Nov 15, 2014 12:36 PM EST | Andrew Taylor

Posted on 11/15/2014 11:09:15 AM PST by Olog-hai

President Barack Obama’s anticipated order that would shield millions of immigrants now living illegally in the U.S. from deportation is not without precedent.

Two of the last three Republican presidents—Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush—did the same thing in extending amnesty to family members who were not covered by the last major overhaul of immigration law in 1986.

There was no political explosion then comparable to the one Republicans are threatening now.

A tea party-influenced GOP is poised to erupt if and when Obama follows through on his promise. …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; obama; reagan
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Facts don’t matter to AssPravda.
1 posted on 11/15/2014 11:09:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Reagan did not act alone, he made a deal with Congress (which failed on its end of the deal) and it was one of the biggest regrets of his Presidency


2 posted on 11/15/2014 11:10:31 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

A pack of lies from the stare-run lamestream media. Ronald Reagan and Calvin Coolidge were the two best presidents of the 20th Century.


3 posted on 11/15/2014 11:12:54 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: GeronL
President Johnspn ...Hank Johnspn of Tiping Guam Fame...has Promised to follow through On The Great Leaders Threat ....




4 posted on 11/15/2014 11:13:21 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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To: Olog-hai
The lefty druggies at AP are Gruberizing on National Gruber Day!

Is everyone @ AP having fun on:


5 posted on 11/15/2014 11:13:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Olog-hai
A tea party-influenced GOP . . .

lol. Andrew Taylor is obviously still in a tizzy of the election. the butt hurt in this one is strong.

I wonder if he has ever referred to the democrats as "big labor influenced", or "gay rights obsessed" . . . "Baby murdering" . . . You get the idea.

6 posted on 11/15/2014 11:16:01 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Olog-hai
Andrew Taylor, you're a damn liar.

Nearly three decades ago, there was barely a peep when Reagan and Bush used their authority to extend amnesty to the spouses and minor children of immigrants covered by the 1986 law.

1) there wasn't a peep because the 86 law was passed (unfortunately) via the constitutional process; and 2) part of the bill was to garauntee border security indefinitely. Of course the bottom feeders in the majority, democrats true to their lying character, completely reneged on this part.

7 posted on 11/15/2014 11:16:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Olog-hai

Reagan DID NOT ACT ALONE on immigration reform.

It was an initiative properly legislated, beginning with a subcommitte which became known as “Simpson/Mazzoli.

It continued through the Constitutional process, with the Bill originating in the House and was passed to the Senate, as called for in the Constitution.

The bill failed but, was brought up again and passed.

President Reagan only signed it after it went through the legislative process.

Reagan DID NOT ACT ALONE.

HE DID NOT INITIATE THE PROCESS.

That said, the bill did not result in some 10 million illegals receiving citizenship, legal resident status or worker permitting.

In fact, 20 years after the bill only 22% of the original illegal aliens obtained some sort of status.

And remember this: That 22% was only reached in the last 12 years.

The majority of Latinos felt they would be in some sort of jeopardy if they even attempted to obtain status and hence, never applied.

of the 22% who did achieve legal status, 70 +% felt they too would be in jeopardy but, with certain assurances, by various gubmint representatives, they rolled the dice as a last resort and received their vaunted legal status.


8 posted on 11/15/2014 11:26:08 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Olog-hai

Even if it were true, I would support impeachment for them as well.

What’s with Liberals justifying crime by saying that others also committed the crime, so it’s ok?

You would have to be a “stupid” ObamaCare supporter or something to work that logic.... oh, yeah....


9 posted on 11/15/2014 11:33:44 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Olog-hai

Dead Red Ted Kennedy LIED...


10 posted on 11/15/2014 11:37:07 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: Olog-hai
At last we know The Big Lie.

Making regulations the congress doesn't approve of is the same as making regulations they do approve of.

And anyone who says different is a racist!

11 posted on 11/15/2014 11:38:36 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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For reference:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/09/us/us-eases-rules-on-illegal-aliens-who-seek-amnesty.html

“... On another issue, the agency has generally refused to say how it would handle applications from a family of illegal aliens when some members qualified for legal status but others did not. Immigration lawyers said that such families could be split apart by a literal interpretation of the law.

Immigration officials offered assurance to some of those families today. Duane Austin, a spokesman for the immigration service, said the Government would not take action to deport minor children living with their parents when the parents qualified for amnesty but the children did not.”


12 posted on 11/15/2014 11:42:25 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Noamie

Yes; they always try to say that bad past precedent means good public policy today.


13 posted on 11/15/2014 11:55:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: a fool in paradise

JFK was the driving force for the 1965 Immigration Act.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s.

In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960.
In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin.

After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”


14 posted on 11/15/2014 1:23:35 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Olog-hai
There was no political explosion then comparable to the one Republicans are threatening now.

What is so hard to understand?

We've been systematically invaded since then by tens of millions, from countries like Mexico where the people have zero respect for our laws and rules. This has cost the tax payers dearly, looted the American treasure of many hundreds of billions, created tens of thousands of crime victims, and on and on.

And now they want to do the same damn thing again, by rewarding them.

They have literally replaced Americans and completely changed many regions of our country with millions of illegals and now they to reward them...Again. Over and over.

I have nothing but contempt for those supporting the obvious incremental demise of America. And that is exactly what this is. And every bit of it was sponsored by and aided and abetted by our own government.

15 posted on 11/15/2014 5:20:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Olog-hai

This is yet another infuriating article by the so-called “Associated Press (AP)”, aka “American Pravda” — basically lying about Reagan/Bush’s Amnesty (WITH Congressional approval) to construe it as SIMILAR to President Narcissus’s forthcoming use of executive order to pass laws from the Executive Office:

However, the AP conveniently glosses over these facts:

-Obama’s unilateral action will be completely unconstitutional.

-Whether or not we agree with the Reagan/Bush Amnesty, it WAS constitutional because of congressional approval.

That’s a big difference that “American Pravda (AP)” doesn’t want the sheeple to understand.

That the AP gets away with this type of fraudulent reporting is astonishing. These left-wing journalists are the lowest form of scum.


16 posted on 11/15/2014 10:30:07 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Lazy/wicked news reporting.


17 posted on 11/15/2014 10:30:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Did Pajama boy write this drivel? What bias and lies


18 posted on 11/15/2014 10:33:54 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Olog-hai
Quote from a person who posted an earlier message here: The schools have no choice when it comes to providing K-12 education. SCOTUS made that mandatory with Plyler vs Doe in 1982. Here in Fairfax County, Virginia we pay $104 million a year for ESOL instruction for 31,000 students.

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My post: That 1982 Supreme Court ruling is the reason we need Constitutional amendments like the following to try to control illegal immigration:

1. "School attendance: Only citizens, legal residents, those with special student visas can attend elementary, high school, and colleges in the United States."

2. "One parent must be a citizen before a newborn child is given automatic citizenship."

3. Felony: We must finally get very serious and declare that crossing the border illegally is a felony. It sounds mean to call it a felony, but we must do it, if we will ever have any chance of controlling our borders. Having the same illegals crossing our borders over and over is wrong,wrong, and wrong.

Illegal immigrant parents come to the United States for the wonderful benefits that their children can receive, like a quality education and great health care. Can you blame them for making the dangerous, long trip with their young children, or sending their children by themselves with the hope that the United States will automatically let them stay?

I don't understand how a child can illegally cross the southern border one day and automatically be eligible to enroll in public school the next day. That is wrong.

19 posted on 11/15/2014 10:44:20 PM PST by john mirse
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“Once again AP shows it’s bias” bump!


20 posted on 11/15/2014 10:55:58 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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