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Obamacare architect discussed misleading public in 4th newly uncovered video
CNN ^ | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/13/2014 4:10:08 PM PST by Innovative

As Congress voted on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, in 2010, one of the bill's architects, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, told a college audience that those pushing the legislation pitched it as a bill that would control spiraling health care costs even though most of the bill was focused on something else and there was no guarantee the bill would actually bend the cost curve.

In recent days, the past comments of Gruber -- who in this 2010 speech notes that he "helped write the federal bill" and "was a paid consultant to the Obama administration to help develop the technical details as well" -- have been given renewed attention. In previously posted but recently noticed speeches, Gruber discusses how those pushing the bill took part in an "exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter," taking advantage of voters' "stupidity" to create a law that would ultimately be good for them.

In this fourth video, Gruber's language is not as stark as in three previous instances, but his suggestion that Obamacare proponents engaged in less-than-honest salesmanship remains.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cnn; gruber; grubergate; gruberrico; grubertheliar; grubervideo; jonathangruber; liargruber; nancypelosi; obama; obamacare; obamacarerico; obamarico; pelosirico; romneycare
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Is anyone surprised a this?
1 posted on 11/13/2014 4:10:08 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Has anyone told Nancy?


2 posted on 11/13/2014 4:11:44 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Innovative

Only surprise is that CNN chose to report it. If I didn’t know any better, we’re being set up for a follow-up report that puts Obama and Obamacare in a good light.


3 posted on 11/13/2014 4:12:12 PM PST by CatOwner
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4 posted on 11/13/2014 4:12:15 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Innovative
ObamaCare Architect undermines ObamaCare foundation Youtube video 1:18

Published on Jul 25, 2014

Voters got to know Jonathan Gruber in 2012 when the Obama campaign put the health care policy wonk forward to shut down ObamaCare attacks from Republican nominee Mitt Romney. President Obama was so eager to play up Gruber’s role as a chief architect of ObamaCare because Gruber had been a chief architect of Romney’s state-level health law. Elevating Gruber allowed the campaign to deliver his lines with greater crack: “The core of the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare and what we did in Massachusetts are identical," says Gruber in one campaign ad. While Gruber may have helped neuter Romney’s ObamaCare attacks, he may end up helping to neuter the law itself thanks to a video unearthed by free-market think tank the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

Gruber, an MIT professor who has become a Democratic health care talking head, also gets paid for talking to industry groups about ObamaCare. In one 2012 speech, Gruber talked about the provision in the law that has state governments administer enrollments, including subsidies. “I think what’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits,” said Gruber, a MIT professor, in a speech two years ago. Why is that problematic? Because it directly contradicts what the administration argued in court about a lawsuit that could be “devastating” to ObamaCare because it would end the subsidies paid to enrollees in the states that did not voluntarily comply.

The preferred talking point for pro-administration groups has been to dismiss the subsidy gap as a clerical error, not an intentional policy. It goes like this: Congress meant to provide a way to work around non-compliant states, but didn’t get the wording right. It was, in the words of one administration insider deployed to knock down the court decision, a typo. And who was that insider? You guessed it: Jonathan Gruber. This matters not because it is an embarrassing deception for an academic to be caught in, but because it suggests the falsity of the administration’s claim that this was a glitch and not a feature. The administration was eager to highlight Gruber’s role in order to shame Romney, making it hard now to suggest that he was some peripheral figure. Whether this matters in the expected Supreme Court decision is a matter for the legal eagles to consider, but from a messaging point of view this is a Krakatoa-sized eruption.

The plan pretty plainly was to do on subsidies what the administration has tried to do on Medicaid expansion: pressure governors who do not comply and create talking points for Democratic candidates. It’s just that so many states refused to set up their own ObamaCare shops, including those with supportive governors. The rest of the actual glitches in the law and technology made even some liberal governors opt out and kick the can back to Washington. If the White House can’t argue publicly that this is some silly technicality it goes straight to the heart of the main problem with ObamaCare and voters: they don’t think it works.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 4:12:17 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Innovative

I’m actually very surprised CNN has a story on it.


6 posted on 11/13/2014 4:12:30 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Innovative

Finally, someone at CNN woke up and smelled the coffee.


7 posted on 11/13/2014 4:14:42 PM PST by Temujinshordes
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2012-01-09 Jonathan Gruber on Mitt Romney and Health Care Reform Youtube video 1:06:19

Mark Levin - "Mitt Romney Used Jonathan Gruber Before Obama - Sorry!" Youtube video 4:16

Former Romney aid (Gruber) says Mitt lying about ObamaCare Youtube video 1:19

HC mandate proponent and Obama stooge Jon Gruber, on Romney's flight from grace Youtube video 5:45 3/30/2011
(Romney supported mandate)

Prof. Jonathan Gruber Explains How He & Sen. Ted Kennedy Helped Implement 'Romney-Care' Youtube video 7:39 7/15/2014

8 posted on 11/13/2014 4:15:21 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Innovative

My, this privileged putz was really tickled with the way he fooled the rubes, wasn’t he? Worked it into every speech he gave, apparently.


9 posted on 11/13/2014 4:17:24 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Innovative

Is this just another wave in the beat down of America or is there a REASON these videos have been leaked? To distract us from Amnesty? Anyone?


10 posted on 11/13/2014 4:18:19 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I understand these videos have been found by an ordinary citizen who lost his health insurance under Obamacare and now cannot afford the new policy.

He did the research no one else did.

I don;t see it as a distraction from amnesty, but more opportunity for the American people to see how this President and the Democrats lied to them repeatedly about Obamacare.

We can be a force multiplier by speaking to our friends, family and co-workers about the duplicity of the Democrats, and why they cannot be trusted on amnesty either.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 4:21:58 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Nancy Pelosi claims she does not who Jonathan Gruber is Youtube video 1:47 11/13/2014

Nancy Pelosi 2009: Americans Should Read Jonathan Gruber's ObamaCare Analysis Youtube video 1:47 11/13/2014

12 posted on 11/13/2014 4:22:09 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: CatOwner
we’re being set up for a follow-up report that puts Obama and Obamacare in a good light

Enrollment starts in 2 days. It's going to be rocky. I doubt there will be much good news anytime soon.

13 posted on 11/13/2014 4:23:57 PM PST by what's up
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To: TigersEye

Sure hope several individuals are backing up these videos.


14 posted on 11/13/2014 4:24:13 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Innovative

I hope somebody has placed Goober on suicide watch. The hits just keep on comin’! LOL! For a “perfessor” the boy sure does have a big mouth. He loves himself because he’s smarter than everyone else. We’re all dummies in his world.


15 posted on 11/13/2014 4:24:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Provisional ballots'. When legal votes just aren't getting the job done. - The DemocRATS.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
It was a citizen reporter that found the videos: http://twitchy.com/2014/11/13/citizen-journalism-at-its-finest-meet-jonathan-grubers-worst-nightmare/
16 posted on 11/13/2014 4:25:06 PM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Innovative

My goodness videos are popping up all over the place now. At this pace we’ll end up with a DVD set with the working title of “The Best of Jonathan Gruber: America’s Filled with Idiots and Rubes Tour”.


17 posted on 11/13/2014 4:25:35 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: CatOwner

There are multiple Youtube sites publishing all of them. There is no putting this toothpaste back in the tube.


18 posted on 11/13/2014 4:25:46 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: CatOwner

First the Washington Post and now CNN. This is all about setting up Hillary. This is all about the clintons.


19 posted on 11/13/2014 4:26:56 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Temujinshordes

They are who you think they are. Now however, at the bottom of advertising dollars, they need operating capital. So, they bend. Think, lying for convenience.


20 posted on 11/13/2014 4:27:40 PM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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