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CNN: Obamacare architect discussed misleading public in 4th newly uncovered video (Gruber)
CNN ^ | November 13, 2014 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/13/2014 12:03:12 PM PST by maggief

As Congress voted on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, in 2010, one of the bill's architects, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, told a college audience that those pushing the legislation pitched it as a bill that would control spiraling health care costs even though most of the bill was focused on something else and there was no guarantee the bill would actually bend the cost curve.

In recent days, the past comments of Gruber -- who in this 2010 speech notes that he "helped write the federal bill" and "was a paid consultant to the Obama administration to help develop the technical details as well" -- have been given renewed attention. In previously posted but recently noticed speeches, Gruber discusses how those pushing the bill took part in an "exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter," taking advantage of voters' "stupidity" to create a law that would ultimately be good for them.

In this fourth video, Gruber's language is not as stark as in three previous instances, but his suggestion that Obamacare proponents engaged in less-than-honest salesmanship remains.

"Barack Obama's not a stupid man, okay?" Gruber said in his remarks at the College of the Holy Cross on March 11, 2010. "He knew when he was running for president that quite frankly the American public doesn't actually care that much about the uninsured....What the American public cares about is costs. And that's why even though the bill that they made is 90% health insurance coverage and 10% about cost control, all you ever hear people talk about is cost control. How it's going to lower the cost of health care, that's all they talk about. Why? Because that's what people want to hear about because a majority of American care about health care costs."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gruber; grubergate; grubervideo; jaketapper; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacarelies; stupidvoters
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1 posted on 11/13/2014 12:03:12 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief
Must be the Democrats in Congress, who are the ones Herr Gruber is/was calling the “Stupid Voters”. No/Zero Republicans in Congress voted for Obamacare! Now, we all knew the democrats in Congress were the Stupid Voters!

A lot of Americans and many freepers have amnesia, when it comes to this documented ObamaCare voter history in Congress!

The documented history on the ObamaCare votes in Congress. Every single democrat senator and every single democrat congressit voted to make this Obamacare the law without reading nor understanding what they voted for.

Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.

So, the stupid rats in congress own ObamaCare as per their own expert, Herr Gruber‘s You Tube comments.

2 posted on 11/13/2014 12:05:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: maggief

What Gruber confirmed is what we already knew..Democrats think the American people are stupid..and in a way, many of them are..just go around any city in America and talk to people, ask them what is going on in the world..ask them about Benghazi, they think its a soft drink or some rock group. Ask them about the IRS targeting Conservatives, they will have this DUH look on their face..heck even better, ask them who the Vice President is..some people are just clueless and this is how Democrats for YEARS and YEARS have secured their voting block


3 posted on 11/13/2014 12:08:27 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: maggief

I heard a rumor Jonathan Gruber set out to destroy America’s healthcare system as revenge for his brothers Hans and Simon.


4 posted on 11/13/2014 12:10:24 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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5 posted on 11/13/2014 12:13:21 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Grampa Dave

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Critics: Health proposals downplay cost of care
Cape Cod Times (Hyannis, MA) - Friday, November 11, 2005

Author: ROBIN LORD

EXCERPT

But Massachusetts Institute of Technology economics professor Jonathan Gruber , who has been an outspoken proponent of the House version of the plan, said his models do not project a huge shift by employers away from their private insurance coverage. And, even if that does happen, it is not necessarily a bad thing, he said.

‘’Insurance is supposed to mean you’re not bankrupted,’’ he said. ‘’Health insurance should not cover all your spending.’’

Gruber agreed that health care costs need to be addressed, but he claimed arguing against the current reform packages on that basis is a case of ‘’perfect being the enemy of good.’’

‘’I agree these plans don’t deal with health care costs in a meaningful way, because we have no clue how to lower health care costs,’’ he said.

‘’Let’s deal with a problem we can solve.’’

Higher out-of-pocket costs could force consumers to pay more attention to the health care they are getting, and thereby lower costs overall, Gruber argued.

Consumers will avoid the health care they do not need, he said.


6 posted on 11/13/2014 12:13:32 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

“Off the cuff” remarks, no doubt.


7 posted on 11/13/2014 12:15:09 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: maggief

You beat me to it!

There are some good links at this one too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3226673/posts


8 posted on 11/13/2014 12:17:10 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SE Mom
Word has it there is worse to come...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__3QtzR-Ylw#t=36

9 posted on 11/13/2014 12:18:42 PM PST by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Dog

“Word has it there is worse to come...”

Pelosi is going to remember Gruber’s name now!


10 posted on 11/13/2014 12:22:36 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Listen to that tape....whatever is coming is going to make it CRAZY.


11 posted on 11/13/2014 12:24:04 PM PST by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: Hugin

12 posted on 11/13/2014 12:24:09 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria; Hugin

Bravo to both of you.


13 posted on 11/13/2014 12:25:46 PM PST by Defiant (GOP needs to be the party of no to socialism, yes to freedom.)
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To: Dog

Is this report it? Or, is there still more to come?


14 posted on 11/13/2014 12:28:07 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggief; Old Sarge; Mossad1967; brucecw; EnigmaticAnomaly; KylaStarr; Califreak; kalee; ...
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CNN: Obamacare architect discussed misleading public in 4th newly uncovered video (Gruber)

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15 posted on 11/13/2014 12:30:10 PM PST by LucyT
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To: maggief
Amazing that CNN let Tapper go with this. He is one of the few one of the with any credibility at CNN.
16 posted on 11/13/2014 12:30:49 PM PST by DAC21
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To: maggief

More to come and that more to includes stuff worse than what we have seen and heard so far.


17 posted on 11/13/2014 12:31:24 PM PST by Dog (Founding member of the Osama Bin Laden was alive the whole time club..)
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To: maggief
I see Gruber differently. If he really thought we were too stupid to understand the ACA, then he wouldn't tried to hide it. I think what he really means is that Americans are too stupid to understand that Obamacare is for our own good.

He even admits if Americans knew about the reality of the law, it would not have passed. That doesn't sound like he thinks we are inherently stupid . . . just stupid enough to not know what is good for us.

18 posted on 11/13/2014 12:31:31 PM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: DAC21

Lets try again

“He is one of the few with any credibility at CNN”


19 posted on 11/13/2014 12:31:52 PM PST by DAC21
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To: LucyT; maggief; Old Sarge; Mossad1967; brucecw; EnigmaticAnomaly; KylaStarr; Califreak; kalee

I wonder how many more videos there are? : )


20 posted on 11/13/2014 12:32:19 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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