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(Unbelievable) ANOTHER TAPE SURFACES; Obamacare architect calling Americans "stupid"
FOX News ^ | November 12, 2014

Posted on 11/12/2014 12:17:05 PM PST by Din Maker

Edited on 11/12/2014 1:18:40 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Din Maker

Probably won’t. They’re to dumb, and lazy with no answers.

Too much to take on. ^$##$^*(^%7


21 posted on 11/12/2014 12:32:48 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Din Maker

It was more than stupidity.

Congress passed a law that they didn’t write, and didn’t read. That is banana-republic stuff. That is el-comandante-ruling-by-decree stuff.


22 posted on 11/12/2014 12:33:51 PM PST by marron
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To: Din Maker
I think this guy said it better,


23 posted on 11/12/2014 12:34:07 PM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Din Maker

They don’t need to ‘raise hell’...

they need to go after these people as the criminals they are.

If a business had pulled off such a deceptive stunt, people would be in jail.

Is this the RICO case we’ve been looking for to shut down the DNC leadership?


24 posted on 11/12/2014 12:34:25 PM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Din Maker

So who is stupid here? Republicans in Congress? No, because not a single one voted for this mess. Democrats in Congress? No, because they were in on the fraud all along. The American people? Not in large measure because opinion polls regularly tell us that 55% to 60% of Americans do not favor Obamacare. That leaves 40% to 45% who are the “stupid” ones. In other words, Gruber has just characterized Democrat voters as stupid.


25 posted on 11/12/2014 12:34:31 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Din Maker
OMGoodness..... what unmitigated gall. I hope the new GOP House and Senate raise all kinds of hell in January.

I have to agree that there is a segment of our population that is stupid. They usually put a capital D after their names. I thought it meant democrat but apparently it means dumb. They bought into this "affordable" care act without even reading it. And it really was an "act", (such as in a fantasy).

26 posted on 11/12/2014 12:34:47 PM PST by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Din Maker
I have posted this numerous times in the past, ....

This IS NOT NEW, "Dims", "Progressives", "Socialists", "Fascists", Communists" have held this view FOREVER!

I first awakened to this fact back in 1980 when, newly promoted to a position in DC, my boss was quoted in the WAPO as saying "well the people just don't know what is good for them!" Immediately thereafter, the issue at hand became my exclusive task to deal with! It only took 5 YEARS of regulatory filings and litigation to PARTIALLY lift the regulatory burden being reviewed!

Excuse me if I am somewhat jaded concerning pour collective future!

27 posted on 11/12/2014 12:37:13 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: funfan

I respectfully disagree my dear sir.

In point of fact, nationalized healthcare has been a part of the Democrat Party platform since the days of Harry S. Truman. In the 1960s, the Dems achieved much of their health care agenda with the passage of programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Obamacare is pretty much designed to wreck what is left of the private health insurance market and it will eventually succeed unless it is repealed.

Elections have consequences. Obamacare is the result of an election. When you vote for Dem POTUSes and Dem congressional candidates you need to know exactly what you are buying into and what kind of legislation and policies will result from voting for candidates of that Party. And unfortunately, it is always far easier to pass legislation than it is to repeal it. Especially as more people become addicted to government programs, which is of course the long term strategy of the Democrat Party.


28 posted on 11/12/2014 12:38:10 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: dware
“They are at least 51% right...and the democrat party RELIES on stoopid voters to further their America hating agenda. They have done so for years.”

Not only that but they have purposely destroyed the education system to create even more stupid voters.

AND they are selling our children into debt bondage.

Nothing but sociopaths who care about nothing but themselves.

29 posted on 11/12/2014 12:39:24 PM PST by varyouga
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To: Din Maker

Here’s the basic equation for you, Gruber:

obamacare = massive political losses for democrats

=> obamacare architect is mildly clever short term but ultimately stupid and foolish


30 posted on 11/12/2014 12:39:34 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: dware
I'm not so sure why everyone is so peeved at his statements.

No conservatives are peeved, it's the Obama voters who are angry because someone from their side has made them feel stupid, albiet rightly so.

31 posted on 11/12/2014 12:44:09 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Din Maker

“the health care law’s authors took advantage of the “stupid” American public”

That’s what these members of the `Party of the People’ say when they think they have a `dead mike’ or when they’re among their `rat friends.
And that’s the way a grifting fraud usually describes his victims—`marks, rubes, suckers’: as `stupid,’ thinking it distances themselves from their own criminal actions.

Americans were burning up town meetings throughout 2010, scolding our reps that we didn’t want `Obamacare’. Then, without a single vote from the GOP senate, the `rats rammed it through Christmas eve, 2010.

Fraud can be civil or criminal. Most of the `rats pushing for passage of the ginormous act admitted they hadn’t read it. Many made material, false categorical statements about the operation of the statute: Obama in particular—at best, not knowing if they were true or false, statements which were intended to induce reliance on the parts of fellow `rats and others maintaining a shred of personal integrity.

The American public demanded to know more (”Or it’s spinach and to hell with it!”) but the `rats refused to explain the act. They knew what would happen.
The Democrats defrauded the American public.
Obama & Company’s actions in any given activity, from foreign affairs to domestic matters, would make a murder of crows blush.

Last Tuesday the American public agreed with this sordid analysis and conclusion and rendered its political judgment, not on the performance of the GOP but on the shameful malfeasance of the Democratic party.

Purple rhetoric? Anyone who isn’t furious by this time has either not been paying attention or has quite possibly been correctly `pegged’ by this arrogant `rat.


32 posted on 11/12/2014 12:51:04 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Din Maker

Why are these tapes, which have been around for years, JUST COMING OUT NOW?!


33 posted on 11/12/2014 12:53:01 PM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: RightOnTheBorder
it's the Obama voters who are angry

Boo friggin hoo. If the shoe fits, and boy does it! Ignorant morons, every. single. one.

34 posted on 11/12/2014 12:54:31 PM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Din Maker

Well, the a$$holes that voted for obamination ARE stupid.


35 posted on 11/12/2014 12:55:40 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: dware
He is EXACTLY correct! I'm not so sure why everyone is so peeved at his statements.

This is what he "apologized for," because this is a red herring.

The important part of his statement was his admission that he deliberately crafted the law to make it incomprehensible, and to disguise certain aspects of it, for political benefit.

36 posted on 11/12/2014 1:04:02 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Din Maker
"It confirms people's greatest fear about the government," Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., told Fox News on Wednesday

Democrats didn't understand the message of election day - they think they need to double down on thuggery, lies, and condescension.

It's almost funny.

Gruber and MIT could be poster boys for what jerks democrats have become and they STILL wouldn't get it.

37 posted on 11/12/2014 1:05:53 PM PST by GOPJ (Gruber & MIT - all the class of boiler room lowlifes pushing worthless swamp land on innocents....)
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To: Common Sense 101
Why are these tapes, which have been around for years, JUST COMING OUT NOW?!

Because no one on our side attended these lectures or watched them on YouTube. Some small-time accountant or insurance salesman, PO'd because of the doubling of his premium under Obamacare, decided on his own to review the available works of "the architect of Obamacare."

This represents hundreds of man-hours of work, something that few institutions can afford.

38 posted on 11/12/2014 1:08:44 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: MNDude

Second time. My bad.


39 posted on 11/12/2014 1:18:31 PM PST by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: Din Maker

This idiot will end up like Loretta Fuddy: D.E.A.D.


40 posted on 11/12/2014 1:18:39 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA - giving us two more years of living hell.)
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