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1 posted on 11/12/2014 7:44:02 AM PST by george76
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Obama Admin using Regulation to bypass Congress and make it’s own law to Control the country


2 posted on 11/12/2014 7:45:29 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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Thusly, the newly (s)elected pseudo-conservative congress needs to defund these asshats NOW! Or as soon as they take orifice in January.


3 posted on 11/12/2014 7:52:51 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect their rights so they can now try to infringe on mine. Weird huh?)
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FUBO, FUBO. The EPA has got to go!!


4 posted on 11/12/2014 7:55:46 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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I’m sure the rules do not apply to the dukes and counts in Versailles on the Potomac.

As for the rule itself, FU EPA. We will all be Cliven Bundys.


6 posted on 11/12/2014 7:58:13 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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It rains on my lawn sometimes. Does this new “interpretation” of the law allow the EPA the control the use of my land? Seems so.


8 posted on 11/12/2014 8:00:55 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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This rule should be withdrawn and replaced with a common-sense alternative that respects states

No.

The EPA should be terminated with all its rules. Its employees and responsibilities should not be folded into other agencies, most of which should also be terminated.

9 posted on 11/12/2014 8:05:01 AM PST by arthurus
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Unlimited power for the federal government sounds good to Obozo.


10 posted on 11/12/2014 8:07:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good Communists, are terrible human beings.)
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The USSC has already ruled against the EPA twice in both the SWANCC and Rapanos. Congress has defined what navigable waters are. The Nazis at EPA are giving the finger to both Congress and the courts. It’s clear to me that the EPA Nazis are completely out of control. Time for the states to order their law enforcement departments to arrest every EPA fascist infesting their states.


12 posted on 11/12/2014 8:11:07 AM PST by sergeantdave
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If this is allowed the govt will be able to come into your yard and regulate your fish pond.

Let me speculate that they will extrapolate this out to private wells. No more new private wells at some point. That means no more rural living. Get thee to a city.

This has to be stopped.


13 posted on 11/12/2014 8:17:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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The woman that does environmental permitting at my firm tells us that her definition of "navigable" is that if a microorganism can traverse the worksite, it qualifies.

Needless to say there are screaming matches in the office daily (there is one going on RIGHT NOW, as I type this, actually), and we have a railroad reconstruction project in NY state that is being stalled as she puts together permitting for the Army Corps of Engineers.

This particular railroad suffered heavy washout damage during flooding a few years ago and has been out of service since... it basically needs maintenance and repair... normal activities on ANY railroad (which is regulated by the Federal Railroad Administration)... but this permitting business is just an absolute nightmare.

Once upon a time, when I was with the railroad, we wouldn't think twice about this sort of thing... Interstate Commerce trumps some paramecium, or "Purple Helmeted Warlber" ALWAYS... and to be compliant with the Federal Track Safety Standards of Title 49 CFR Part 213, you need to maintain the railroad, the ties, the rail, ballast, the ditches, the culverts, and the bridges...

It is time to take back our country. It's actually way past time that we took the power back.

14 posted on 11/12/2014 8:22:13 AM PST by Rodamala
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In 2009 one of the senators from Wisconsin proposed a bill that would make all water property of the government and all flood plains, runoffs and mudholes would be under government control. I belive his name was Kohl. Had this passed if you owned a hundred acres and had a three acre pond on it and you had cattle you could be denied allowing your cattle to drink the “KINGS” water. Of course you would be paying taxes on the hundred acres. They’re just trying to take by fiat what they couldn’t take bt legislation, I’m surprised they couldn’t muster support for it after they were able to pass the “Food Safety Act”.


15 posted on 11/12/2014 8:24:04 AM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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Florida is now probably lost due to the low information voters just passing an Amendment which will provide a slush fund of approx. $19 billion over the next 20 years which will be primarily to buy more land.

The enviro groups are surely in the midst of some great Gorbasims right now in anticipation of getting their hands on this vast amount of taxpayer money.

Just wait until the already high property taxes start going thru the roof in a few years as more and more land is bought up in a State where already 30 to 40% of the land is already in government ownership.

Over 80% of the state to be in government ownership is their goal, now they will be provided with the funding needed to accomplish it.

Perhaps in the not too distant future Florida will be the able to host the first annual Hunger Games as the high speed rail plans are forging ahead also.


17 posted on 11/12/2014 8:33:35 AM PST by Captain7seas (y)
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UN Agenda 21 ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


20 posted on 11/12/2014 8:47:20 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Remote, sparsely populated counties run by rich bureaucrats started doing that without federal assistance long ago. It brings them big cash flow.


28 posted on 11/12/2014 12:35:26 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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In our county, in WA, the green groups made a deal with BP that if they paid for Storm water work, which would connect storm water ditches and ponds to a stream that once upon a time, was a glacial stream that dumped into the bay, they would exempt BP from oversight, along with the the land on which they want to build a coal terminal.

In this case, the Republicans joined the Stormwater regulators, against the property owners.


29 posted on 11/12/2014 12:42:09 PM PST by Eva
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Even the term "navigable" has been stretched beyond recognition to include kayakers on whitewater rivers. The whole point in the Constitution was to promote interstate commerce as a free trade zone. Navigable in that sense was constrained to those streams capable of carrying goods.

From FindLaw:

The admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the federal courts had its origins in the jurisdiction vested in the courts of the Admiral of the English Navy. Prior to independence, vice-admiralty courts were created in the Colonies by commissions from the English High Court of Admiralty. After independence, the States established admiralty courts, from which at a later date appeals could be taken to a court of appeals set up by Congress under the Articles of Confederation. 744 Since one of the objectives of the Philadelphia Convention was the promotion of commerce through removal of obstacles occasioned by the diverse local rules of the States, it was only logical that it should contribute to the development of a uniform body of maritime law by establishing a system of federal courts and granting to these tribunals jurisdiction over admiralty and maritime cases. 745

The Constitution uses the terms ''admiralty and maritime jurisdiction'' without defining them. Though closely related, the words are not synonyms. In England the word ''maritime'' referred to the cases arising upon the high seas, whereas ''admiralty'' meant primarily cases of a local nature involving police regulations of shipping, harbors, fishing, and the like. A long struggle between the admiralty and common law courts had, however, in the course of time resulted in a considerable curtailment of English admiralty jurisdiction. A much broader conception of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction existed in the United States at the time of the framing of the Constitution than in the Mother Country. 746 At the very beginning of government under the Constitution, Congress conferred on the federal district courts exclusive original cognizance ''of all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, including all seizures under laws of impost, navigation or trade of the United States, where the seizures are made, on waters which are navigable from the sea by vessels of ten or more tons burthen, within their respective districts as well as upon the high seas; saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it; . . .'' 747 This broad legislative interpretation of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction soon won the approval of the federal circuit courts, which ruled that the extent of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction was not to be determined by English law but by the principles of maritime law as respected by maritime courts of all nations and adopted by most, if not by all, of them on the continent of Europe. 748

Anything smaller is under the jurisdiction of the States.
35 posted on 11/13/2014 12:22:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Bump to read later


36 posted on 11/13/2014 12:26:39 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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CWII Spark — They’re trying to set things up to take your land, and your water, making you wholly dependent on their goodwill.


38 posted on 11/21/2014 9:15:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Bumping this thread again because of the following coming down the pike at us. They are after controlling ALL COMPONENTS OF LIFE INCLUDING THE WATER WE DRINK!
Note that the Arabs are meeting this week on Jan 11-15 2015. For those of you who like to put current events in their prayers, this is a good one to put on the list, imho!

My apologies to any who I pinged who may no longer be on the a21 list.

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7th World Water Forum, Daegu & Gyeongbuk 2015
Water for our future

The 7th edition of the world’s largest water event will gather participants from the international water community as well as policy and decision makers from every corner of the world to discuss current water issues and catalyze positive change.

The 7th World Water Forum to be held in Daegu - Gyeongbuk, Republic of Korea, 12-17 April 2015, will focus on the implementation of the solutions that were identified during the 6th edition (France, 2012) in line with its 3 primary objectives:
Moving from Solutions to Implementation
Bridging the Platform of Science & Technology to Water Issues
Contributing to the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)

Four main subjects grouping 16 themes constitute the thematic framework of the 7th World Water Forum:
1.Water Security for All
2.Water for Development and Prosperity
3.Water for Sustainability: Harmonizing Humans and Nature
4.Constructing Feasible Implementation Mechanisms

The regional processes for this 7th edition are Africa, the Americas, Asia-Pacific, Europe, the Mediterranean and Arab region and an Economically Water Insecure (EWI) region.

In addition to the thematic, regional and political processes, a fourth Science and Technology process will focus on how to address water issues through the exchange of water-related cutting-edge technologies and information.

A Citizen’s Forum to raise citizen awareness in favor of water will be promoted and a Youth and Children’s Forum will be engaged.

The 7th World Water Forum is jointly organized by the World Water Council and the Republic of Korea together with the city of Daegu-Gyeongbuk.

Upcoming events

3rd Arab Water Week 2015

Dead Sea, Jordan

11 January 2015 to 15 January 2015

7th World Water Forum

Daegu-Gyeongbuk, South Korea

12 April 2015 to 17 April 2015

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1st announcement of the 7th World Water Forum – Daegu Gyeonbuk, 12-17 April 2015

Introduction & Preparatory Processes.

Date: April 2013
English version (15 pages - pdf 2,63MB)

2nd announcement of the 7th World Water Forum – Daegu Gyeonbuk, 12-17 April 2015

Introduction & Program Processes.

Date: June 2014
English version (16 pages - pdf 2,52MB)

Water for our future - 7th World Water Forum – Daegu Gyeonbuk, 12-17 April 2015

Presentation Brochure.

Date: August 2014
English version (2 pages - pdf 13,8MB)

Background documents

The Forum thematic framework
Official Website

12-17 April 2015

Publications
•First Announcement
•Second Annoucement
•Presentation Brochure

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39 posted on 01/11/2015 9:40:46 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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40 posted on 01/11/2015 10:09:52 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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