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Jonathan Gruber and the billion dollar Obamcare slush fund (exactly who is cashing in?)
vanity | 11/12/14

Posted on 11/12/2014 4:32:18 AM PST by Liz

Outed as a congenital liar, Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber said that "lack of transparency" was a major part of getting Obamacare passed because “the stupidity of the American voter” would have killed the law if more people knew what was in it.

Gruber, the MIT professor who served as a technical consultant to the Obama administration during Obamacare’s design, also made clear during a panel quietly captured on video that the individual mandate, which was only upheld by the Supreme Court because it was a tax, was not actually a tax.

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed…..."

"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish my colleague Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

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Gruber's lies and omissions---and the huge slush fund hidden in Obamacare raises questions WRT where all that money is going ----and if cashing-in was the incentive in getting the thing passed?

The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest.

Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly votes Obamacare byb an historic straignt-party line vote.

But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion

What is the reason why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund? Exactly who is cashing in?


TOPICS: US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: california; gruber; grubertheliar; jonathangruber; liargruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; romneycare
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1 posted on 11/12/2014 4:32:18 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

"At the foundation of our civil liberties lies
the principle that denies to government officials
an exceptional position before the law and which
subjects them to the same rules of conduct
that are commands to the citizen."

Justice Louis D. Brandeis

2 posted on 11/12/2014 4:37:13 AM PST by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Liz
Well I must admit I know nothing about contract law, but in my mind if you pulled this in a business contract I do believe it would constitute Fraud
3 posted on 11/12/2014 4:39:06 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe

It is fraud but it goes far beyond that. Justice Roberts will go down in history as one of the most hated people of his time. I bet he will confess that he was blackmailed and his family and life threatened on his deathbed.


5 posted on 11/12/2014 4:41:54 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Liz

I have said, many times, that if ALL politicians and gov’t employees and their families were required to use Obamacare, the whole thing would go away so fast, the blinding vanishing flash would hurt your eyes...


6 posted on 11/12/2014 4:45:24 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Liz
Gillibrand (Rat-NY) and Barney Fa...sorry,Frank...have both openly and publicly admitted that the Rats knew from the very beginning that the “if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor” stuff was a lie.Gillibrand made the admission about a year ago to Martha Radditz on what used to be the Brinkley Sunday morning show.
7 posted on 11/12/2014 4:49:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Islamophobia;The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: Liz
$8B for promoting zer0care ?!?!
That's almost enough to make me come out of retirement.
I'm pretty good at building crappy websites.
They passed it and now we're finding out what's in it. This bill is without question, the single-worst (as in most destructive) piece of legislation of my lifetime. I never thought that being on Medicare and VA Med would be a good thing. It sure is now. My non-veteran friends who are still working are getting hammered.
8 posted on 11/12/2014 4:51:30 AM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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6 Weeks
50%

Donate

9 posted on 11/12/2014 4:59:56 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: circlecity
Gruber was bought and sold by the Obama administration for $400,000. Thus, while he was presenting himself as an objective observer trading on his credibility as an expert he was taking almost a half million from Obama to lie through his teeth.

Not to mention the secret Obamacare multi-billion dollar slush fund.

10 posted on 11/12/2014 5:23:19 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

Starting to sound like it’s past time for RICO investigation.


11 posted on 11/12/2014 5:27:04 AM PST by IMR 4350
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Contact Information

Jonathan Gruber
MIT Department of Economics
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Bldg E17-220
Cambridge MA 02139

Phone: (617) 253-8892
Fax: (617) 253-1330
Email: gruberj@mit.edu

Support Staff:
John Arditi
Phone: (617) 253-8887
Email: arditi@mit.edu

From: http://economics.mit.edu/faculty/gruberj


SOURCE http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/business/jonathan-gruber-health-cares-mr-mandate.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Residence of Jonathan Andrea Gruber, 3 children and 8 parrots
12 Skipper Way
Gloucester, MA
(purchased for $750,000 in 2008.


Professor Whitney Newey
MIT Dept of Economics Head
Phone: (617) 253-6420
Fax: (617) 253-1330
Email: wnewey@mit.edu

MIT Department of Economics
77 Massachusetts Avenue E19-760
Cambridge MA 02139

Headquarters Support Staff:
Kara Nemergut
Phone: (617) 253-3807
Email: nemergut@mit.edu

Academic Support Staff:
Emily Gallagher
Phone: (617) 253-8884
Email: emily@mit.edu


12 posted on 11/12/2014 5:30:22 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: ComputerGuy
$8B for promoting zer0care ?!?!
That's almost enough to make me come out of retirement.
I'm pretty good at building crappy websites.

And I'm pretty crappy at building good websites. Maybe we should partner.

13 posted on 11/12/2014 5:36:13 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Liz

President Walker, tear down this monstrosity!


14 posted on 11/12/2014 5:41:10 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Liz

There is no way that der Fuehrer was not the major part of this attitude and lie. That said, only a reminder; the first article of impeachment the democrats wrote against Nixon was that he lied to the American public.


15 posted on 11/12/2014 5:42:25 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; GOPJ; Jane Long; no-to-illegals; stephenjohnbanker; ...

PING


16 posted on 11/12/2014 5:45:20 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

If you’re in tight with any of zer0’s people, give ‘em a call. I know I can pi$$ away money with the best of them.


17 posted on 11/12/2014 5:46:37 AM PST by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: Liz
regarding Gruber Image and video hosting by TinyPic
18 posted on 11/12/2014 5:56:45 AM PST by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Oooooooo....scary.


19 posted on 11/12/2014 6:08:12 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

Gruber can put that pic in his book. My limited success with Paint. I was so excited to share it!


20 posted on 11/12/2014 6:14:38 AM PST by machogirl
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