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ObamaCare architect - lack of transparency helped law pass; 'stupidity of the American voter'
The Daily Caller, Fox News.com ^ | November 11, 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 11/11/2014 8:18:05 AM PST by Patriot777

ObamaCare architect Jonathan Gruber said that lack of transparency was a major part of getting ObamaCare passed, and that it was written in such a way as to take advantage of "the stupidity of the American voter." Gruber, the MIT professor who served as a technical consultant to the Obama administration during ObamaCare’s design, also made clear during a panel quietly captured on video that the individual mandate, which was only upheld by the Supreme Court because it was a tax, was not actually a tax.“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; california; court; coveredup; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; stupidvoters; tax
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To: jch10

Same way nobody could find out the true background of the usurper before ‘08. They were all playing on the same side. The same side that believed the people were just too stupid to know what was best for them.


21 posted on 11/11/2014 10:00:17 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Patriot777

The lamp posts in Washington should be working overtime........


22 posted on 11/11/2014 10:16:44 AM PST by Envisioning (My desire to be well informed is at odds with my desire to remain sane....)
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To: nikos1121

Another thing the Lamestream presstitutes don’t like to mention in all their “bipartisan” talk.


23 posted on 11/11/2014 10:46:44 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

their fraud resolution department will transfer you to “Peggy” in Russia.


24 posted on 11/11/2014 10:49:28 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Patriot777

The guy’s a typical liberal elite jerkoff...


25 posted on 11/11/2014 10:54:36 AM PST by GOPJ ( MSNBC is left-wing radio with pictures. CNN's anchors are mostly tired, left-wing & smug.. -Nolte)
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To: TurboZamboni

Seems like Midterm Mandate talk is over, sheep are supposed to focus on the holidays and Black Friday.


26 posted on 11/11/2014 11:00:03 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: nikos1121

OBAMA’S ULTER UBRIS: “I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policy than my policy directors. I think I’m a better political director than my political director.”

“As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, because America gave him the White House based on the same credentials.” ~Newt Gingrich

Perfect Quote

Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a
way that you can quickly understand them. This quote
came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has
it figured out. It was translated into English from an
article in the Prague newspaper Prager Zeitungon:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a
citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the
Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the
necessary common sense and good judgment to a
depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
president. The problem is much deeper and far more
serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what
ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not
blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made
him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack
Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely
to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made
him their president.”


27 posted on 11/11/2014 6:38:17 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: randita

No, I hold the GOP responsible for not finding out what people like Gruber were saying and doing. Not Congress, the Party. The people who send me requests for money all the time.

They should be looking for any and everything that helps liberals/Democrats. Use a talking points type message and get it out to the country.

I don’t expect much of Congress. They rarely say anything worthwhile.


28 posted on 11/11/2014 6:49:39 PM PST by jch10 (OTOOTO....Obama, The Out Of Touch One!!)
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To: jch10
No, I hold the GOP responsible for not finding out what people like Gruber were saying and doing. Not Congress, the Party. The people who send me requests for money all the time.

Firstly, the Republicans (aided by conservative media outlets) DID put out the word about what Obamacare was going to do. Why do you think there were all those overflowing town hall meetings leading up to the 2010 election? People knew and they were outraged. Lots of Democrats even stopped holding town hall meetings because they were besieged by angry constituents who knew what was going to happen.

If you didn't know, you weren't paying attention and that's no one's fault but your own.

Secondly, the Gruber quotes I'm seeing took place recently, not during the Obamacare debate back in 2009-10. The Democrats shut the GOP out of the process and did everything in secret.

It's getting trite and tedious for everything that goes awry to be blamed on Republicans. Either blame Democrats, the real culprits, or look in the mirror.

29 posted on 11/12/2014 5:33:02 AM PST by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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To: randita

I’m not saying that the Republicans didn’t advise us about Obamacare, We all kept up with that, most of us daily. And yes, Gruber’s comments came after 2010....2012 and 2013.

That’s what I take issue with. That information could have made a tremendous difference in the 2012 election! IT WAS NOT MENTIONED!!! What kind of party does that?

I’d like to blame the Democrats. Unfortunately, that isn’t their MOS.

Understand this. I expect my political party to try to win every election. When they fail to educate the members, time after time, I don’t consider it trite. I see it as purposeful or inept. Or both.

I’ll continue to seek the facts and look to trusted sites for information.....without blinders on.


30 posted on 11/13/2014 6:10:50 PM PST by jch10 (OTOOTO....Obama, The Out Of Touch One!!)
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