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Obamacare Architect: Yeah, We Lied to The "Stupid" American People to Get It Passed
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/10/2014 9:31:37 AM PST by Kaslin

Meet Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT and an architect of Obamacare. During panel event last year about how the legislation passed, turning over a sixth of the U.S. economy to the government, Gruber admitted that the Obama administration went through "tortuous" measures to keep the facts about the legislation from the American people, including covering up the redistribution of wealth from the healthy to the sick in the legislation that Obamacare is in fact a tax. The video of his comments just recently surfaced ahead of the second open enrollment period for Obamacare at Healthcare.gov.

"You can't do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that," Gruber said. "In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not."

GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

A few points. 1.Notice how lying to the American people is completely justified by Obama administration standards so long as the ends justify the means. Gruber would "rather have this law than not," and therefore purposely lying about what the law actually is in order to get it passed is completely acceptable. regardless of the negative effects it has on the lives of Americans. 2. Lack of transparency might be a huge political advantage in the short term, but long term there are consequences from voters, which is exactly what we saw last week during the Democrat blood bath at every level of government across the country. 3. Insulting Americans as stupid and deceiving them is a really good way to lose your power on Capitol Hill, which is again exactly what we saw last week in the 2014 midterms. Twenty-eight Senators who voted for Obamacare are now out of the Senate for one reason or another. 4. Obamacare in its entirely was "sold" on lies. From the promise to keep your doctor to claims insurance rates would go down, not up -- to hiding that the legislation was in fact a tax until of course it was necessary to argue it was a tax to save the legislation at the Supreme Court. Government bureaucrats promising an expansion of care knowing care under Obamacare would be limited, etc. Hell, even the official name for Obamacare, "The Affordable Care Act," is a lie. Obamacare isn't affordable. 5. The process through which Obamacare was shoved through and down the throats of the American people happened as a result of Harry Reid changing Senate rules and without the support of voters. The legislation didn't receive a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. Also, remember this?

Nancy Pelosi - What she is willing to do to pass Healthcare

Or this?

"Absolutely not a tax increase."

Obama in 2009: "Absolutely Not a Tax Increase"

Obamacare is a sham and the American people have been lied to and deceived every step of the way. Further, Obamacare has never been popular with the American people. Not when it passed and not now. It should also be noted that since before Obamacare was passed conservatives have been rightly screaming about its true contents and impact on American families and the economy. They've been right all along and were called racists for sounding the alarm.

Overall, a lack of transparency has been key to the Obama administration's existence on a whole range of topics, which is why it is one of the least transparent administrations in history despite President Obama's promises.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0carenightmare; california; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacarelies; obamacaretax; stupidvoters; unaffordablecareact
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To: Farmer Dean
Onkel Fritz would be pleased ....
21 posted on 11/10/2014 9:45:01 AM PST by mikrofon (Hildy's Heroes)
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To: skeeter
You said...
“If the GOP really wanted to undo the ACA mess they’d buy airtime nationwide and feature this soundbite. People already hate Obamacare - this would set them to frothing at the mouth.”

We will see if the GOP is really serious about undoing this monstrosity or if they just want the issue.

22 posted on 11/10/2014 9:45:22 AM PST by LMAO (("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush))
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To: Rummyfan
some of these b*st*rds ought to be swinging from lamp posts.

They should, but they aren't, and they won't. Real America is too busy trying to survive - pay the mortgage, make the rent, pay the car payment, insurance, taxes, licensing, gas and repairs, put the kids through college, taxes are paid, etc. - to do anything about it. As much as I believe differently and have prepared differently, I just don't see REAL AMERICA doing a damn thing about any of it. The lawlessness will continue...D...R...doesn't matter...

23 posted on 11/10/2014 9:45:29 AM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Kaslin

We knew when old stretch said we have to pass the law to know what is in it, we knew then, it was a fraud.


24 posted on 11/10/2014 9:45:33 AM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Still Thinking

Great respone, Still Thinking :)


25 posted on 11/10/2014 9:46:08 AM PST by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Walrus

The bottom line is he still voted to make ObamaCare the law of the land.


26 posted on 11/10/2014 9:46:47 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Kaslin

Not shocking at all. “They” lied to the stupid American people, and they are stupid, to get Obama elected in the first place.


27 posted on 11/10/2014 9:49:28 AM PST by Toespi
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To: LMAO
I think we already know the answer to that question.

The GOPe have been running on being the anti-democrat for decades, yet when have they really undid any major program or policy they claimed to be against?

There may have been one or two, but I can't think of one.

28 posted on 11/10/2014 9:52:44 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Toespi

And insane to elect him twice......


29 posted on 11/10/2014 9:55:51 AM PST by Down South P.E. (Be a Berean Acts 17:11)
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To: Kaslin

“You can’t do it political.”

Sure has hell SOUNDS like the smartest guy in the room, eh?
/SARC sarcsarcsarcsarc


30 posted on 11/10/2014 9:59:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rummyfan

I agree completely with you


31 posted on 11/10/2014 10:00:16 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Bad source link.

Here http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/10/obamacare-architect-yeah-we-lied-to-the-stupid-american-people-n1916605

Proof again that almost nobody ever clicks on source links.


32 posted on 11/10/2014 10:00:48 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Menehune56

I would not be surprised if it did


33 posted on 11/10/2014 10:01:57 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: logi_cal869

At the risk of being very UPC, (Un Politically Correct), can you imagine John Wayne sitting in the pose of this bozo?

Metro Man BARF!!!!!

Dish TV isn’t carrying CCN et al. Don’t miss them a bit!


34 posted on 11/10/2014 10:07:52 AM PST by jayrunner
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To: Kaslin

Somehow, this needs to be sent over the the Louisiana GOP so Cassidy and bust it off in the fat commie Mary’s azz between now and Dec. 6th runoff. She was the deciding vote on this and it needs to be out there and they should run ad after ad with this.


36 posted on 11/10/2014 10:14:46 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: RJS1950
POUND THIS UP THE DEMOCRAT’S ASSES EVERY CHANCE, EVERY DAY,...

Unfortunately, many of them would probably enjoy that.

I prefer the suggestions involving torches, pitchforks, tar, feathers.....

37 posted on 11/10/2014 10:15:50 AM PST by sjmjax
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To: Kaslin

The time is running out on political solutions. It the GOP congress does not stand up to the tyrant we will be a 3rd world dictatorship. Then, the only way for real change is a coup or secession.
If the GOP doesn’t stand up this time, next time, 0bama will threaten them (in private) with an accidental nuke of their state. He probably is already threatening them with Ebola cases and an outbreak right now!


38 posted on 11/10/2014 10:22:36 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


39 posted on 11/10/2014 10:26:56 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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