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Ancient and Modern Europeans Have Surprising Genetic Connection
Live Science ^ | November 06, 2014 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 11/08/2014 4:01:30 PM PST by robowombat

Ancient and Modern Europeans Have Surprising Genetic Connection by Charles Q. Choi, Live Science Contributor | November 06, 2014

There is a surprising genetic unity between the earliest known Europeans and contemporary Europeans, ancient DNA reveals. This finding suggests that a complex network of sexual exchange may have existed across Europe over the past 50,000 years, and also helps to pinpoint when modern humans interbred with Neanderthals, the closest extinct relatives of modern humans, the researchers said.

The origin of contemporary Europeans continues to be debated. The modern human ancestors of contemporary Eurasians are believed to have left Africa about 50,000 to 60,000 years ago, but how these earliest Eurasians contributed to the modern European gene pool remains unclear.

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1 posted on 11/08/2014 4:01:30 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Some say that the out of Africa model is wrong. King Tut was said to be Irish for a while then said related to half of the European men.


2 posted on 11/08/2014 4:05:59 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Well, the Celts are the wild card in that deck. They’re not quite sure where the proto-Celts came from but it might be as far east as India or Tibet. There are Tibetans who have freckles and red hair, I’ve seen photos. Also a musicologist I read about once claimed similarities between Indian and Celtic musical forms.

CC


3 posted on 11/08/2014 4:15:37 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Well, the Celts are the wild card in that deck.

DNA science is new and needs lots more research and we will have answers to many questions.


4 posted on 11/08/2014 4:18:52 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping!

I don’t know why this is “surprising”!


5 posted on 11/08/2014 4:27:13 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Celtic Conservative

The Scots shed some light on that in the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320.

“...Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since.”

“...as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”


6 posted on 11/08/2014 4:43:41 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: robowombat

The dawn of civilization originates out of Ireland, where drinking and fighting were first invented... yes?


7 posted on 11/08/2014 4:49:59 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: mountainlion
Some say that the out of Africa model is wrong. King Tut was said to be Irish for a while then said related to half of the European men.

It is incorrect to say that Tut was Irish. It is more correct to say he has a genetic relationship with the people who eventually settled in Ireland.

Agriculture apparently originated somewhere in the Levant. It would not be surprising if proto-European agriculturalists came down the eastern Mediterranean coast, found the rich soil of the Nile valley, and settled there, displacing any original inhabitants.

8 posted on 11/08/2014 4:56:31 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

When PBS was doing a program they scanned the camera over Tuts DNA. Someone recognized it as Irish. More research revealed that Tut was related to half of present day European men. Another article said that Tut’s parents were his brother and sister. Lots of strange things.


9 posted on 11/08/2014 5:05:52 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: robowombat

save


10 posted on 11/08/2014 5:09:28 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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FReepers, Let's go!
Everyone needs to donate!

All contributions are for the current quarter expenses.


11 posted on 11/08/2014 5:24:57 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: robowombat

I think I may have bred with a Neanderthal on my last blind date....


12 posted on 11/08/2014 5:25:13 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: mountainlion

Dancing by the Nile
Moved to the Emerald Isle (Celtic Tut)


13 posted on 11/08/2014 5:33:51 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: faithhopecharity
"I think I may have bred with a Neanderthal on my last blind date...."

If the women don't meet your standards- drink more beer & lower your standards.

14 posted on 11/08/2014 5:37:15 PM PST by fini
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To: concentric circles

That fits with one of the theories I’ve read that the Celts that settled Ireland and Scotland came from Northern Spain approx 600 B.C.
Scholars called them “Celtiberians”.
CC


15 posted on 11/08/2014 5:58:22 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof.)
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To: SteveH
Drinking and fighting weren't invented in Ireland. The Irish perfected drinking and fighting, however. And I'll punch anyone who says otherwise, 'ya hear me!

Sorry, went all "Brian Boru" for a moment.

CC

16 posted on 11/08/2014 6:04:27 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof.)
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To: mountainlion

What about the Picts?


17 posted on 11/08/2014 6:08:10 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: mountainlion

The marriage of close cousins and even siblings was not unusual in some Egyptian Dynasties. Saudi Arabia still allows first cousins to marry. Of course Saudi Arabias incidence of rare and debilitating genetic disorders is way higher than that of other countries


18 posted on 11/08/2014 6:09:58 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof.)
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To: concentric circles

Phoenicians.


19 posted on 11/08/2014 6:13:30 PM PST by Mercat ("The sisters did not want to save the world. Someone already had.")
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To: Jabba the Nutt

The picts from what I’ve read were already established aboriginal peoples who started interbreeding with celts from Ireland.

CC


20 posted on 11/08/2014 6:14:22 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof.)
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