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How the GOP Should Deal With Obama's Incorrigibility
Townhall.com ^ | November 7, 2014 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 11/07/2014 6:17:48 AM PST by Kaslin

resident Obama's remarks at his post-election news conference were instructive on his attitude about the election results and his approach going forward.

He always pays lip service to hearing the voters' message when his side loses but then reveals he hears only what he chooses to hear.

He said that what stood out to him was that the American people had sent the same message they had sent for the past several elections. How can that be?

If he had said the people had sent a similar message to the one they'd sent in 2010, it would have made more sense. But what commonality is there in the election results of 2012, when he was re-elected, and those of 2010 and this past week?

For the sake of argument, let's play along. What message did he divine from the voters Tuesday?

Well, he said the American people expect their elected leaders "to work as hard as they do." I assume he was not interpreting the message as a rebuke for his excessive golf playing, especially in the very moments of crisis, because he included all elected officials in his statement.

"They expect us to focus on their ambitions and not ours," he continued. "They want us to get the job done."

What ambitions? Finish what job? For Obama to imply that the people share policy goals that can be achieved by bipartisan legislative action is as insulting as it is misleading.

Liberals, for example, don't want to work with conservatives to repeal Obamacare and restore market forces to health care. They don't want to roll back the oppressive federal regulatory state. They don't want to simplify the tax code and quit punishing producers and businesses. They don't want to allocate sufficient resources to rebuilding our defense forces so that we can properly conduct this growing war on terror. They don't want to enforce existing immigration laws and secure the borders. They don't want to defang the Environmental Protection Agency.

Conservatives don't want their elected representatives to work with Democrats to further grow the government and restrict individual liberties and market forces. They don't want the administration to continue this charade that there is barely a war on terror going on.

It is a mistake for either side to assume that the two polarized sides of the aisle share many of the same goals. You might counter that both parties want the American people to be more prosperous. I'm not sure that's even true for Obama, who famously said that he'll tell us when we've made too much money. But even if most Democrats arguably share our goal of increasing prosperity for all Americans, they have an entirely different idea as to what policies are necessary to bring this about.

They are now fixed on this bizarre idea that we can grow the economy from the middle out. I have no idea what this even means -- and I'm quite confident they don't, either -- but look at how they propose to achieve it: through redistribution of existing resources. They never consider the idea of expanding the pie; they only think about transferring income and wealth from certain groups to others. That's how they believe you grow the middle class, as opposed to getting the government out of the way and unleashing the innovation and industriousness of the American people themselves through profit and other market incentives. So even if we agree on the goal of prosperity, we are 180 degrees apart on how to get there.

The same is true of health care. Conservatives don't believe that maximizing the numbers of insured is the best way to increase access to quality care and freedom of choice and to reduce costs to individuals and government. Indeed, we believe our experiences with Obamacare already demonstrate that these stated goals not only will not be achieved but also will be thwarted by increased government intervention. The invisible hand of the market always creates more efficiencies than the most brilliant of central planners.

Our respective ideas on the war on terror and foreign policy in general couldn't be further apart. Obama and his team barely want to acknowledge that we are involved in a war or that overt acts of terrorism are terrorism. They seem to believe that we can end these hostilities by sweet-talking radical Islamists and keeping ground troops out of the Middle East.

There is no end to the number of issues on which Obama and his party have an entirely different vision than what now appears to be a majority of American voters.

In his news conference, Obama revealed that whether or not he heard the American voters, he has no intention of changing his fixed ideological course.

That is why those in the newly elected Republican majority would be making a very serious mistake to pretend they can work with him. They need to present legislation to him that aligns with conservative principles, even if his vetoes are a foregone conclusion, and thwart all attempts he makes to continue on the same path of increasing the size and scope of government and subjecting us to further, existentially dangerous debt.

A realistic goal for them would be to roll back some of Obama's damage and prevent any more while biding their time until 2016, when we can hopefully elect a president who shares enthusiasm for the American dream and America's uniqueness and exceptionalism.


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To: ilgipper

Clinton was impeached, that is correct. However he was not removed by the senate, because the dems had the majority. I am sure we could impeach him and maybe even remove him. I am thinking of the future though of the rat party to be the minority party for a long time, not just for a few years


41 posted on 11/07/2014 8:22:25 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: jakota

Why don’t you shut up, my post wasn’t to you, was it?


42 posted on 11/07/2014 8:24:20 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

But .. think about this .. if you have a dem president, it automatically gives the other dems preference (at least they want people to think so).

So, I want a Republican who believes in GOD, and the sanctity of life.


43 posted on 11/07/2014 8:24:59 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: jakota

That is true


44 posted on 11/07/2014 8:25:56 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Ray76

and Boehner and McConnell should tell the hero of benghazi they will not fund any function s which carries out amnesty


45 posted on 11/07/2014 8:27:44 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Kaslin; jakota
"Who cares what you’re tired of? And we don’t need to get over it!"

Why don’t you shut up, my post wasn’t to you, was it?

Both of you shut up! I'm sick of both of your complaining! Get over all of it!

46 posted on 11/07/2014 8:29:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: Lazamataz

Will do


47 posted on 11/07/2014 8:37:21 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Ahhh, you're no fun any more.


48 posted on 11/07/2014 8:46:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them. We have no 'news media', only a Soviet Pravda.)
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To: Kozak

As much as I would like to see major funding reductions (if not outright abolishment of certain agencies), the fact remains that it would take a “veto-proof” Senate majority to make such moves stick, would it not?

Short of a Convention of States type effort (which could force a re-thinking of the entire role of the federal government vis-a-vis the reinforcement of the original intent and application of the 10th amendment), perhaps a more pragmatic approach would be to pass a bill that would basically shift existing funding to the States in the form of block grants. This would allow for a deliberative process in each state as to what program(s) would continue and what programs would basically sunset and go away.

When Obama vetoes this kind of Bill, he would not be able to do so while asserting that Congress is trying to “do away” with Education (DOE), the environment (EPA), the less fortunate among us (HHS), etc. The Congress can then say, “we aren’t making that judgement, we’re just wanting these decisions to be made at the State level”.

Then,even if Congress doesn’t override Obama’s veto, the case can be made to the electorate that if you like the idea of having these decisions (and the funding that goes with it) made at the state level, give us the rest of the Senators we need to override such vetoes and/or a conservative President in 2016.


49 posted on 11/07/2014 8:58:20 AM PST by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: Kaslin
  1. Demand his college transcripts and financial aid records.
  2. Investigate his social security number.
  3. Send a team to Hawaii to find that birth certificate.
  4. Investigate his historic ties to known communists and expose their intents.
  5. Expose the trail of weapons to named enemies of the United States, in Benghazi, in Fast and Furious, and in Syria right now.
That would be a good start.

It's not so much about being a "birther" as it is to tie him in knots.

50 posted on 11/07/2014 9:08:12 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: LeonardFMason
Like all Amish mug shots is he wearing a VOTE OBAMA shirt?

His last Che Guevara T-Shirt was stolen at the bath house.


51 posted on 11/07/2014 9:57:17 AM PST by Iron Munro (EARBOLA – the nausea one gets when hearing the sound of Barack Obama 's voice)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve seen and heard enough Boehner to know that his is weak and confused. He does not oppose usurpation of Congressional authority, he does not oppose Obama’s agenda and in fact advances it.

I’ve you’re too blind to see and require further “waiting” then that’s your problem.


52 posted on 11/07/2014 12:09:55 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: joshua c
He is in padded room territory. He thinks the 2/3s who did not
vote support him? Has he seen his disapproval numbers lately?

Nice circumlocution, josh.

53 posted on 11/07/2014 2:02:54 PM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: oldbrowser
Impeaching Obama at this point would help the Marxists in the long run by making him a martyr to their cause.

Indeed.

As much as 0bozo deserves impeachment, I truly think that pursuing it is a fool's errand.

Let us not make him a martyr!

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




54 posted on 11/07/2014 11:09:52 PM PST by rdb3 (Meh! A hole-in-one is just an eagle.)
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