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Marijuana profits up in smoke under ITS rules [link only]
USA Today [link only] | November 4, 2014 | Katie Kuntz

Posted on 11/04/2014 1:12:54 PM PST by grundle

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To: elhombrelibre
No, that's your functional illiteracy in action. What would you have us conclude from the fact that among the jobs I'm not willing to do is prostitution?
41 posted on 11/05/2014 1:54:14 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You’re like the advocate of slavery. You wouldn’t ever want to be a slave or a prostitute, but you don’t mind if others are forced into it. Basically, I’m pointing out the obvious, which that you’re a fraud and a silly pot head.


42 posted on 11/05/2014 10:06:05 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
You wouldn’t ever want to be a slave or a prostitute, but you don’t mind if others are forced into it.

Who said anything about being forced into prostitution? That's possible only because prostitution is illegal - otherwise there would be the same unfettered recourse to legal protection as someone who was being forced into being, say, a baker (which you'll notice never happens).

43 posted on 11/06/2014 7:25:33 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Yeah, sure. All the prostitutes in Nevada are doing it as a normal career path. They could be bakers or bankers but they prefer fellatio to finance and fritters. Are you always so inane?


44 posted on 11/06/2014 12:31:23 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
So your "logic", to use the term loosely, is that they must be forced because there's no other possible reason they'd be doing it - it's simply not possible that they never bothered to acquire any other marketable skills, or that their (lack of a) moral code lets them see it simply as the easiest money available.

And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ...

Are you always so inane?

45 posted on 11/06/2014 1:11:41 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You think, to use the term loosely, most prostitutes are prostitutes because that’s a preferred career choice, apparently. I know it has more to do with poverty, drugs, abuse, and coercion. Look at nations that were once very poor, like South Korea. Korean women were both forced into it and chose it out of economic need. When Korea’s wealth improved, Korean women stopped doing it. Women from other poor countries are imported to Korea to be prostitutes. I guess you see this as maximizing their freedom, like how you want all drugs to be legal. In fact, it exploits their poverty for sexual gratification. It may be the oldest profession, but the Happy Hooker is a rare breed. That’s logically correct.


46 posted on 11/06/2014 10:15:34 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
it's simply not possible that they never bothered to acquire any other marketable skills, or that their (lack of a) moral code lets them see it simply as the easiest money available.

I know it has more to do with poverty, drugs,

Drugs are one way to lose any other marketable skills, and poverty is a result of not having any other marketable skills. You're not disagreeing with me here.

abuse, and coercion.

We were talking about legal prostitution in Nevada, where there's still no reason to believe coercion is possible: "And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ..."

47 posted on 11/07/2014 12:21:43 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I suppose you also believe that gambling and prostitution in Nevada are successfully regulated in ways to keep organized crime out of it. And the poor wretches who provide sexual gratification in this regulated environment are not exploited, I suppose? Hey, no skill, here is a skill you still have. Spread your legs or open your mouth. I know. You’re personally opposed but want people free to chose sex in a market place with strangers.


48 posted on 11/07/2014 11:55:07 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
We were talking about legal prostitution in Nevada, where there's still no reason to believe coercion is possible: "And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ..."

I suppose you also believe that gambling and prostitution in Nevada are successfully regulated in ways to keep organized crime out of it.

Irrelevant to anything that's been said on this thread ... but, "Researchers state that organized crime is more of a product of illegal or poorly regulated gambling than well-regulated gambling. [...] Organized crime has been successful infiltrating ancillary businesses such as machine maintenance or those that provide other services." - https://www.library.ca.gov/CRB/97/03/Chapt11.html

And the poor wretches who provide sexual gratification in this regulated environment are not exploited, I suppose?

Depends what you mean by "exploited" (a favorite term of liberals). There's STILL no reason to believe coercion is possible: "And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ..."

49 posted on 11/12/2014 11:42:44 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Do you use prostitutes?


50 posted on 11/12/2014 12:06:20 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
No.

There's STILL no reason to believe coercion into legal prostitution is possible: "And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ..."

51 posted on 11/12/2014 12:51:45 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

And you’d be willing to work in a whorehouse and provide sex for pay and have men crawling all over you, right?


52 posted on 11/12/2014 1:59:14 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Asked and answered - see posts #41 and #42.
53 posted on 11/12/2014 2:35:24 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: elhombrelibre
And there's STILL no reason to believe coercion into legal prostitution is possible: "And having been forced into legal prostitution, they don't report it to the authorities because ..."
54 posted on 11/12/2014 2:36:26 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

You think coercion only occurs at the point of a gun?


55 posted on 11/12/2014 10:31:21 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Coercion also includes, for example, blackmail - but does NOT include taking a job you hate because it's the only one you can get.
56 posted on 11/13/2014 11:06:24 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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But you seem so much like a person who would work at a whorehouse, maybe doing it by hand, so you could stay stoned while puffing the with the other hand. I mean you’re really, really are into dope and prostitution. But maybe I’m wrong. I’m sure if it were your mom, daughter, or sister opening her legs or mouth for money, you’d stick with your crackpot libertarian utopianism while you puff a bong.


57 posted on 11/13/2014 11:49:28 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Coercion also includes, for example, blackmail - but does NOT include taking a job you hate because it's the only one you can get.

But you seem so much like a person who would work at a whorehouse, maybe doing it by hand, so you could stay stoned while puffing the with the other hand. I mean you’re really, really are into dope and prostitution.

When a Drug Warrior's arguments fail as they always do, you can count on him to dive into the gutter of personal attacks - just goes to show how factually and morally bankrupt his position is.

I’m sure if it were your mom, daughter, or sister opening her legs or mouth for money,

That's gun-grabber logic: my mom/daughter/sister got shot so let's ban guns.

you’d stick with your crackpot libertarian utopianism

Utopianism is thinking the law can eliminate consensual vices.

58 posted on 11/13/2014 12:01:09 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

The law cannot stop all vice. And your promoting vice makes you not a libertarian, but a sophist and a voice of the devil.


59 posted on 11/13/2014 12:26:53 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
The law cannot stop all vice.

Exactly - but it can and has enriched criminals by confining the vice trade to their hands.

And your promoting vice

That never happened ... unless you want to claim that everyone who supports the legality of alcohol and tobacco is thereby "promoting" them.

60 posted on 11/13/2014 1:35:20 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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