Posted on 11/02/2014 6:21:22 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
Tell that to the American born and educated engineers and see what kind of response you get.
At the level these guys work at, they are not taking jobs from Americans, nor are they suppressing wages over all.
They are just working at a reduced salary level for 3-5 years or so s they break into the US Tech industry. Many require that length of time to come up to speed on American productivity levels and standards anyway.
Perhaps you would prefer that that they go back to their home countries and compete with the US instead of making us more competitive here at home?.
These are some fairly brilliant PhD level people who doing the jobs most American’s can't do.
At the level these guys work at, they are not taking jobs from Americans, nor are they suppressing wages over all. They are just working at a reduced salary level for 3-5 years or so s they break into the US Tech industry. Many require that length of time to come up to speed on American productivity levels and standards anyway.
These are some fairly brilliant PhD level people who doing the jobs most American’s can't do.
Which one is it? You've got to think we're stupid.
Perhaps you would prefer that that they go back to their home countries and compete with the US instead of making us more competitive here at home?
Yes I would, and without the American education. Our taxes built those universities. The demand pull for university space elevates the tuition our kids pay. They end up in debt. Then guys who think like you screw them royally competing with your imports working them until their families are wrecked. Then you expect them to pay taxes to support military defense of your investments overseas.
For various reasons, some good and some bad, Americans do not gravitate towards Science , Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) disciplines like they used to and our dumbed down public schools do not prepare students like they once did.
Those that do go for STEM Degrees generally do not pursue advanced Master and PhD level degrees like they once did.
In many University advanced STEM degree programs, the majority of students in the Master and PhD programs are foreign students.
This is not because of some vast conspiracy to replace patriotic Americans with with sketchy foreign Manchurian Candidate students, but because Americans are not applying in substantial enough numbers to fill out program numbers.
Most of these foreigners are being funded by their native governments or foreign scholarships and they are paying way more than Americans so they are actually subsidizing American students, not the other way around. (Oh, and by the way, last time I checked Stanford was a private school with private funding and so is MIT. )
They actually kind of screw their native governments when they choose to stay and live in the US.
Foreign students are usually brilliant but mostly “Book Smart” and many have the disadvantage of growing up in third world countries where technology is not as ubiquitous as it is here so they often lack the corresponding practical knowledge that Americans absorb by simple day to day hands on experience with high tech items. It takes them a few years to learn how apply their book knowledge to practical problems.
I spent a good part of my life trying to recruit bright Americans into the STEM disciplines and an even greater part my life helping them pursue remedial eduction to bring their education proficiency levels that they should have been taught in High School up to point that they could progress and succeed in STEM curriculum at the University level. I also spent a good bit of time promoting higher standards for the public schools so American Students would be better prepared for University.
Many public schools these days have very good advanced placement K-12 study programs that provide excellent, world class education and college prep, but only a handful of students take advantage of these programs.
It really comes down to the fact that American students don't value a quality eduction and hard work as much as they once did and our educational standards have dropped to the point where it's all too easy for students to drift through school aimlessly and all too easy for the school system to accommodate their lack of ambition and lack desire to educate themselves. The sad fact is that many young Americans are to spoiled, decadent and lazy to take hard courses and work hard and apply themselves in those courses so ambitious , hard working foreigners are filling the void and picking up the slackers slack
bttt
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