Posted on 10/29/2014 12:21:34 PM PDT by Mozilla
How many other "forgetful" Rat voters did NOT get caught?
Or to paraphrase our president, there is no voter fraud, period.
Unfortunately, voter fraud, more properly termed government fraud, is much more pernicious than this article suggests. As Lenin explained over eighty years ago, “It only matters who counts the votes.”(sic) States have the responsibility for administering elections, and George Soros invested in picking state’s attorney’s general over ten years ago.
Think about it. Once a vote is cast, whether by mail, by marking a ballot, or touching a screen it is no longer traceable. Once we had paper ballots that could be recounted. Yes, boxes of ballots could be and were lost, but each local precinct counted those ballots before they went home, and before the ballots were sent, under guard, to a bonded warehouse. Today, with electronic voting, there is no precinct oversight.
If the NSA can monitor every packet sent over the internet, they can access voting data, if it even exists, using mechanisms most engineers can explain. The bottom line is that unlike Germany, which returned to paper ballots, Israel, and a few other honest governments, our governments, with the some big crony friends like Google, is well along with a completely Internet-based voting systems. This permits absolutely no audit trail, and insures that there can be no trust that any election has validity.
It is sport in many university departments of electrical engineering to hack voting machines. No machines used in the U.S. have not been penetrated - easily. In a recent election a large number of the machines deployed were manufactured by a Venezuelan company. U.S. Federal courts have determined that the software deployed on computer-based machines could not be examined because it is protected intellectual property. The problem of how to protect the integrity of voting is an open problem. Only paper ballots, as agreed by the Germans, provide for an audit trail. Paper isn’t perfect, but depending upon the ethics of a bit on digital media is preying on the naivety of most citizens. Altering stored numbers, if those controlling the votes even bother, is trivial to a freshman computer science student.
Look at the many states reporting votes from 110% of eligible voters. Look at the fiasco of Alan West’s recent election, where the recounts changed, by large percentages, with every recount, and West was not allowed access even to the precinct results, presumably machine-generated. There are thousands of reported examples, dating from before the excellent book “Votescam”, which documented and federal involvement in fixing an election in Broward County, where voting machines were fixed and the count reported before several precincts had even reported.
We are not a representative republic any longer. Both major political parties are complicit in eliminating that inconvenience of public preferences.
Anyone heard of voter fraud going in the other direction - voting DemoRat and having it changed to Republican? Anyone?
Seems the guy has his head buried in the sand. There is proof without a doubt that it is occurring. Democrats make it easier to happen because it helps them win.
I agree.
The check's in the mail!
I promise I'll still love you in the morning.
I'm from the government and I'm here to help...
The category should be obvious, and I'm sure there are more.. ;-)
No voter fraud on the Left....?
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Oh, thanks - I needed a good laugh.
Interesting how some well meaning and for the most part honest liberals tolerate those on the left who they know are actively involved in cheating. It makes sense only if these good people consider conservatives evil...think Hitler and the Nazis!!
The left defends the most liberal voter policies possible as if their lives depended on it. When every other rational argument has been applied, and yet they still defend the indefensible, you know the only thing left is that they depend on cheating to win.
The one that always gets me is when they say “there’s no evidence voter impersonation occurs”. When you don’t look for it, and there’s no method, system or document to check, OF COURSE there’s no evidence it’s happening.
Imagine Barney Fife asleep at the station as the sole deputy on-duty for the graveyard shift, while cars and trucks drive un-checked on the 4-lane highway that passes thru town. According to liberal logic, clearly none are speeding because none have been caught, and no tickets have been issued.
RIDICULOUS!
Funny how the left wants massive rules and regs for every facet of society...except voting.
I've grown to agree with a distinction somewhat like RIghtwardHo's. We have voter fraud, but we also have election fraud.
When a New York snowbird is registered in New York and Florida and votes in both places, that's voter fraud. When someone casts the write-in ballot for a dead relative, or a former resident, or votes in person and casts an absentee ballot, that's voter fraud. When a non-citizen registers to vote using a driver's license obtained through the Motor Voter law, and then casts a vote, that's voter fraud.
However, if a voting machine is 'calibrated' to switch R votes to D, that's election fraud. If a 'grassroots' group collects discarded ballots and uses them to generate a few hundred votes, that's election fraud. When a person votes in person and casts an absentee ballot and they were taught to do so by a an organized group or political party, it smells more like election fraud to me than voter fraud. When a union or the local D generate records of voters, sometimes alphabetical, who didn't actually vote, that's election fraud. ACORN was election fraud, not voter fraud. Ad infinitum.
I personally think the number of fraudulent votes generated by what I would term "election fraud" outweighs the number of fraudulent votes generated by what I would term "voter fraud," but I'm the person making the distinction between the two categories and I'm the person making the guess. I'm not doing any math.
However, I don't dismiss voter fraud. I think voter fraud is a problem. As I differentiate the terms, I'd guess that election fraud creates more fraudulent votes than voter fraud because that's what I pulled out of my hat. However, voter fraud is a problem.
re: “can’t the computer systems find these issues?” After the Bush-Gore election, Sen Chris Dodd pushed through HAVA - Help America Vote Act. This spends hundreds of millions...maybe billions.. on voter hardware and software. You may be surprised to learn that Dodd’s Conneticut friend Jerry Long of PCC said “It’s as if it were written specifically for me.”
Move-on.org lashed out at the Diebold hardware it funded... until Move-on discovered that is was engineered precisely for the automated vote-switching by Dodd’s friends.
PCC does the software. Its contracts say the software will be developed in the US. But one wonders why the Indian team-leads in CT are always going to India. How many dying relatives can they possibly have? And while there, it sure seems like they are in closer direct supervision of the developers than when they are in the US.
The software is a mess. The result is that elections are a mess. Nobody knows who is registered and who isn’t. In that ambiguity a person can always claim “The computer lost my registration” ... And you know what, it might be true.
A Republican official in an effort to be bi-partisan and work with the Democrats in control of election software took the HAVA money as FREE MONEY he didn’t have to beg the legislature for. So he took the 30 pieces of silver. (Did the staff person who convinced him to take the 30 pieces get more than 30 for himself when he left the Republican staff for a juicy position at PCC?”)
When the civil rights groups scream “racism” they are not aware that it is a setup their own side has arranged... and a trap the Republican has fallen into.
It is voter suppression. Supressing American’s will.
In normal cases, I might agree. But RIghtward HO pisses on every good idea we have, and always has nothing but Debbie Downer comments. He’s a Concern Troll, who may have accidentally tipped the hand on what the liberals do en-masse with the election fraud.
We don't always agree when we talk, but when we agree not to agree it's frequently with laughter, a spirit of friendship, and a realization (I believe) that we're not really that far apart, all sprinkled with kind things said about FR.
Soon. I owe you a meal as a result of the wedding cop-out. We know this won't be a major part of the discussion - bigger things are brewing - but we can mention it.
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