"We are going to need a bigger boat."
Posted on 10/29/2014 11:35:53 AM PDT by varyouga
CDC Poster Admits Ebola Can Be Spread Through Air And Contact of Contaminated Objects
I wanted to save and post here before it gets "corrected"
I think there is a lot we don't know about how it spreads, including what animals can carry it around and spread it, whether it can survive in sewers, etc. The obvious routes of infection are likely not to be the only ones.
Clinton redux. They are all liars.
I had a cold two weeks ago. A couple times when I sneezed and wasn't quick enough to cover my face (hands were carrying stuff), part of me landed on the wall across the room. More than two meters. To me, close contact would be two to three meters.
I think that means on surfaces.
"We are going to need a bigger boat."
I guess when you make up your own titles, it is OK to correct them.
The word is not “admit”, it is “explain”. The EXPLAIN how it is transmit, they don’t “admit” it. CDC is not spreading the disease, after all.
You might as well say your math teacher “admits” that 2+2=4.
The message is clear — avoid all fluids from people who are actively suffering from Ebola. That includes fluids that are flying through the air at you.
BTW, when I hear “airborne” used incorrectly about Ebola, I keep thinking about “Glee”, and how many of their students were impacted by “Airborne Slushies”.
I’ve a patient in the hospital, urinated only, flushed the toilet, and seen bits of feces - not mine - wash back into the toilet. I’ve felt the mist from that powerful jet. Of course the toilet had no lid to shut during flushing.
Flushing technique for an agile patient - extend leg, flush with foot, run.
And hospital administration wonders why C-diff spreads.
I don’t work in a hospital now, but when I was in nursing school, I had to empty bedpans. There is a spray arm on the toilets that pulls down to rinse out the bedpans. Powerful spray, and you can’t control the strength. So you get a scoured-out bedpan, yay, but you also get a mist on the nurse’s, or aide’s, skin and clothing.
Admin wonders why C-diff spreads.
Toilets and sewage treatment have saved millions of lives. Badly-designed toilets may have killed thousands.
“Airborne” in this context means to be carried by the air.
droplets are not “carried by the air”. They are light enough to travel several feet through the air before falling.
So for a analogy that isn’t quite accurate but would explain the difference — Pollen is “airborne”, it travels long distances. A bullet is not airborne, even though it might travel a good distance.
If Ebola was Airborne, there would be hundreds of thousands of dead people.
The difference between airborne and droplet spread, practically speaking: If there is a person about to die of Ebola, you can stand in the opposite corner of a 10x10 foot room with no protection, and not get sick.
If there is a person suffering from TB, and you stand in that opposite corner, you are almost certain to catch TB.
Because TB gets into the air and circulates throughout the room and you breathe it in. Ebola is in the fluids, and if you stand far enough away, the fluids are not going to reach you.
If you are on an airplane with a person not in the end stages of Ebola, you are actually more likely to die of a plane crash, than you are to die of Ebola.
But for some reason, people are not refusing to fly on airplanes.
"Self quarantine? Hell no!"
"TRANSMITTAL MECHANISM
To graphically illustrate the transmittal mechanism, a video recording was made of a subject talking under back lighting conditions. Large amounts of spittle was projected from the subject during the formation of words beginning with f, p or t. (See Figure 14). The projection distance was two to three feet under normal talking conditions. Coughing Figure 11 Medium magnification SEM of spittle area with generated gross amounts of saliva and dead lung tissue which KCI crystals. could project four to six feet from the subject. Sneezing of course, was the worst case, projecting saliva ten to fifteen feet at speeds as high as 200 mph. The tuberculosis Society made a movie some twenty years ago that vividly demonstrated the way in which TB was transmitted. In many oriental countries, it is common place to see face masks worn to prevent airborne flu and cold virus from being inhaled after someone sneezes in close quarters. What is new, is that fabrication and assembly facilities seem to be unaware of the fact that talking generates a large amount of projected saliva. This is not entirely unexpected since the saliva projection is not visible to the talkers under normal lighting conditions. "
Here the concern is that a single tiny drop of saliva will land on an IC surface.
Many individuals may be unaware of the risk of air-borne dissemination of microbes when flushing the toilet and the consequent surface contamination that may spread infection within the household, via direct surface-to-hand-to mouth contact. Some enteric viruses could persist in the air after toilet flushing and infection may be acquired after inhalation and swallowing.
Air, not so likely. But contact through objects, it would be similar to how the bubonic plague and cholera spread.
Thanks for the excellent explanation. My wife was horrified at me sneezing out snot six feet away. Good to know that I'm not so dangerous compared to others!
Don't worry folks, we have it on GREAT authority that Ebola is gosh darned near impossible to get!
Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your......
(Since all records of obama's past were lost in a tragic boating accident and fire, no one can be certain that the guy in the red circle isn't him...)
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
Droplets are the exact same way the flu and the common cold are spread.
Meanwhile our brave men & women in uniform are stationed in Liberia with four hours disease training and no protective gear.
don't forget that the message is aimed at democrats too...
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