Posted on 10/27/2014 4:28:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
Not surprised. Worried about out of control government.
ping for later
Decent and moral people are also conservatives. For example, abortion:
Future Abortion Doctor: “Seeing an Arm Being Pulled Through the Vaginal Canal Was Shocking”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3219648/posts
... Men and women who are considering providing abortions as a career must overcome their natural revulsion to witnessing violence. They must silence their consciences and prepare themselves to participate in the destruction of human life on a daily basis. If they cannot do this, they will not be able to perform abortions. Here are quotes from four people – two medical students, a doctor, and a would-be Planned Parenthood director, going through this process.... [snip]
Neal Boortz used to bash pro-life people and he banned them from debating him on it. He was a cowardly punk on that issue.
Libertarians gave us gay marriage and abortion on demand.
Go away.
No, no, and no.
One need not be a Libertarian to see that the examples listed are wrong and need to be corrected.
I have serious, serious heartburn with his totally open border immigration plan, his shallow thinking about marriage, and his free trade and 'respect other cultures' political correctness platforms. But his totally open border beliefs mean that he doesn't believe in national sovereignty. That means anyone can vote. It actually means why have a country in the first place.
. He's virtually unknown but here is his platform from his website. I've heard John Stoessel, Fox Libertarian, saying essentially the same things:
>End domestic spying. A warrant should be required for any domestic surveillance.
◦Immigration reform. Peaceful people should be allowed to move freely, with minimal interference.
◦End state marriage. Consenting adults do not need permission from government.
◦End the drug war. Prohibition is costly, in dollars and in liberty, and unsuccessful.
>Non-intervention. Keep our nose out of the business of other nations.
◦Respect other cultures. We would not want other cultures pushed onto us.
◦Free trade. Trade is the best way to ensure peaceful international relations.
No bailouts. Companies must live and die by their own merits.
◦No special perks. Whether big or small, the rules should be the same.
◦No excessive regulations. Don't strangle our economy with ideology.
◦No cap on liability. Companies should be responsible for their actions.
◦Tax reform. End the income tax.
◦Industrial hemp. Allow our farmers to grow a versatile, viable crop here in America.
Decent and Moral People should not be stupid and waste their vote voting Losertarian.
Vote Conservative and do not siphon votes to allow DemocRATS to win elections they otherwise would have lost.
Most Libertarians are Pro-Choice and care less if everyone smokes pot!!
Where’s humblegunner whining about someone pimping a web site?
It took all of 20 minutes for the straw man argument to appear.
the whole history — since history could stoop to notice them — of their whiny little (alleged) political philosophy, libertarians have but one consistent accomplishment; providing the margin of victory for extremist liberals to go to congress, and dramatically expand the size and scope of the central government.
then, usually, they blame republicans.
if every one of them dropped dead tomorrow, no one would notice.
The problem is that third partyers have no chance anywhere here in the states, so voting for them in the primaries and general elections are a waste of time and only turns the votes over to the rats
The ONLY way I see for 3rd parties to be relevant is to campaign on their issues, and then agree to endorse a major candidate in exchange for concessions on policy. It’s not the same impact as a minority party has in a parliamentary system, but it could result in them getting some of what they want instead of their throwing an election to those they absolutely disagree with.
This is one Libertarian position with which I agree. The The alternative, courtesy of the 14th Amendment, is nationwide, state-sanctioned same-sex marriage. Let religious institutions marry people and let the state allow consenting adults to draw up legal contracts that control the ownership and distribution of assets. Eliminate distinctions in the tax law between married and single people.
I wouldn’t put all libertarians in the same pot. Some are okay, like John Stossel for example and some like Ron Paul are nuts imho.
That is very true and I am not a libertarian
“Most Libertarians are Pro-Choice and care less if everyone smokes pot!!”
I’m a pro-life conservative and care less if everyone smokes pot. I don’t want to, but I could care less if there are some who want to do so.
It is incomplete, and that makes it incorrect.
The whole point of recognizing marriage is a legal protection for women bearing children.
As a pastor, can I engage in civil disobedience and just marry folks in the eyes of God? Sure. But, if I have a supportive governmental system that also wants to protect that marriage for rational reasons, such as because the nuclear family is the basic building block of society, then I’m enjoined by the Apostle Paul’s summary about good laws in Romans 13 to support such a good law. For about good government, Paul says “he is God’s servant to do you good”.
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