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Three pioneering women in Marine infantry course are asked to leave. Why?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | October 24, 2014 | Anna Mulrine

Posted on 10/26/2014 11:25:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

Just weeks after three women passed a rigorous day-long test qualifying them to potentially lead US Marine infantrymen for the first time in history, news came that all three women have been asked to leave the course.

They were physically disqualified from the training last week for falling behind in hikes while carrying loads of upwards of 100 pounds, says Maj. George Flynn, director of the Infantry Officers Course (IOC) at Quantico, Va.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: marines; miltary; usmc; women
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To: oh8eleven

oo-RAH!


21 posted on 10/26/2014 11:47:12 AM PDT by clintonh8r ( BRILLIANT, WITTY (but incendiary)TAG LINE REMOVED BY MODERATORS.)
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To: yldstrk

how about the local PD’s with 5’4 petite officers on the force..guess what,they cant do the job either nor can a petite fireman
Affirmative action jeopardized everyones safety


22 posted on 10/26/2014 11:47:16 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Reno89519
Besides, does EVERYONE need to carry a 124 pound backpack?!

You bring up an interesting point. However, don't we want the best of the best to lead soldiers? Sure, bring more women into combat but you still want performance otherwise failure can bring tragedy.

23 posted on 10/26/2014 11:50:16 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Reno89519

——At the end of the day the Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat, to respect that they can and should be equal participants, that they have different physical limits——

That is about the stupidest comment I have ever read on FP...bar none...

I’v read a few quite a few...

My apologies if you were being sarcastic....


25 posted on 10/26/2014 11:53:27 AM PDT by Popman
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To: F15Eagle
We send them out and leave them alone to deal with the world’s problems with their liberal logic.
What could go wrong? LOL ...
26 posted on 10/26/2014 11:54:59 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Reno89519
At the end of the day the Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat, to respect that they can and should be equal participants, that they have different physical limits.

Even if the Marines are coerced into "respecting the different physical limits" of women in combat, our adversaries will not respect those limits.

Any society that sends its women to fight before it sends its cane-borne old men and non-shaving boys deserves to be destroyed and will be by societies that do not make that mistake.

27 posted on 10/26/2014 11:55:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Colonel Christian Wortman is the commander.


29 posted on 10/26/2014 11:57:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Popman

Liberals apparently want Women in War (where people actually die!). But they will be quick to scold the conservatives for engaging in a phoney War on Women.


30 posted on 10/26/2014 11:59:41 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Reno89519

Why don’t we just let the Marines set their own standards, instead of some armchair ex enlisted sailor.


31 posted on 10/26/2014 11:59:57 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: roadcat

So, how many Americans have died because of an officer able to carry a 124 pound backpack but too stupid to be in the role? I’d rather have brains entered into the equation, not just brawn.

Anyway, is 124 pounds a relevant and meaningful measure today? And back to the article, was the pace consistent? The article suggests there might be more to this story than the initial headline that they failed.


32 posted on 10/26/2014 12:00:10 PM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: Reno89519
Oy. If you don't like the way the training regimen sounds, wait until you see the Fleet.

Even in the Navy there's MOS (Navy: 'Designator'/'NEC', or whatever) where they intentionally weed out a certain percentage of a class with a regimen designed to produce failures.

In USMC Infantry Officer's Course, there's NO question. They'll get rid of 30% of the men in that school. Some even on the first day. I've never seen a USMC infantry officer that wasn't an ostrich.

A female would have to be an Amazon Wookie Olympian Nuclear Mutant Lesboid to get through USMC OIC. One of them will make it eventually.

33 posted on 10/26/2014 12:00:45 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: jocon307
However, I doubt I could walk 10 feet carrying 100 pounds, so that part’s against me.

Hey, when I was 20 I might well have been able to do it after some extra training.

As regards these women, to get this far they are pretty tough and highly motivated. I congratulate them. But they are training for combat, life and death. If they really believe in what they are doing, each would agree that they should be out if they can't meet the standard. Men get dropped, why shouldn't they?

34 posted on 10/26/2014 12:01:28 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Timber Rattler
all three women have been asked to leave the course

Could these women be examples of the war on women the Liberals have become obsessed with?

35 posted on 10/26/2014 12:03:02 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I highly doubt that.

Major George Flynn, he is, google it......

36 posted on 10/26/2014 12:03:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz homie......)
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To: Timber Rattler

Can she carry my 200 lb Marine 100 yards?


37 posted on 10/26/2014 12:03:16 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Reno89519
Marines, like all services, need to find ways to bring women into combat

Why?

Seriously, why?

38 posted on 10/26/2014 12:08:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“They were physically disqualified from the training last week for falling behind in hikes while carrying loads of upwards of 100 pounds, says Maj. George Flynn, director of the Infantry Officers Course (IOC) at Quantico, Va.”

Of course they can’t. They’re women. Very few women can physically do things that men can do. They weren’t cut by the virtue of being women, but by the fact they are too weak for combat. People need to stop acting like something wrong happened here. They wouldn’t accept a man who can’t do, so why would they accept women who can’t do it?


39 posted on 10/26/2014 12:08:56 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Our obligations to our country never cease but with our lives.- John Adams)
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To: Reno89519
No, women don't belong in combat-period!

And the fact is they can't meet the physical requirements that combat demands.

If you are in the Infantry, you have to carry that load, both enlisted and Officers.

40 posted on 10/26/2014 12:10:17 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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