Posted on 10/23/2014 2:51:03 AM PDT by Libloather
Democrats assumed earlier this year that ObamaCare would be a political advantage by Election Day. North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan, for example, said in February she wanted to show the Affordable Care Act “is something whose time is come.” A month later Colorado Sen. Mark Udall said “we did the right thing” in passing the law and told voters he “would do it again,” a response echoed by incumbents Mark Pryor (Arkansas) and Mary Landrieu (Louisiana).
It isn’t working out that way. As the election nears, ObamaCare is re-emerging as a major liability for the Democratic Senate that passed it. According to an Oct. 2 Gallup survey, 54% of Americans said the Affordable Care Act had hurt them and their families compared to 27% who said it had helped them.
The White House understands this, so it is not trumpeting the upcoming open-enrollment period when people can sign up for health coverage. Nor are White House officials crowing about last year’s eight million sign-ups, probably because insurance industry officials suggest that 10% or more never fully enrolled by paying their premiums.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Repeal may take a few elections.
article is behind a pay wall....can you post the rest of it.
can’t read it ... could you copy-n-paste it?
I think we might be beyond repeal at this point. The time for that was a year ago. The further down the pipe we go the more difficult it will be. Almost certainly the courts will become involve b/c someone will file a ‘fairness’ suit. (That is, they gave me something then took it away.) I think, sadly, we’re harnessed w/ DemocratCare. The best now is to rewrite it to the point most can be free of it.
Until then youll hear nothing but whining and lies from liberals who assumed someone else would pay their way. A bright side of it, if you can view it that way, is the dems will be forever associated w/ this abortion.
I’d like to think that the further it goes the easier it will be to repeal (as more Americans pay a steep price for it).
Either way, it is nice to see Obama as a pariah on the campaign trail - shades of BJ Clinton in 2000 (when many Dems rejected his offer to campaign for them).
Election fraud got the Liberals into the WH. PERIOD! t’s the sword with TWO edges.
They forget... they have no REAL mandate in America! It was a hollow victory and there are NOT the numbers out here to support their policies.
It is the reason their Obamacare will not fly.
It’s SO obvious and simple I can’t believe the actually THINK stealing the WH equates to forcing illicit legislation down the throats of people who DID not vote for them ... and never will.
The opposition is SO virulent that EVEN with the wholesale support and bias of the MSM, they STILL can’t make the ACA palatable to enough people!
They built their house on sand and NOW it is apparent just how artificial and empty their ‘victory’ really was … and just how stupid and criminal they are!
“What clever man has ever needed to commit a crime? Crime is the last resort of political half-wits. “ Charles Maurice de Talleyrand
You can go ogle the title and bring up the whole thing to read.
Repeal is a long-shot. The ONLY way that it will come about is through a Cruz presidency, and a full-frontal assault against the GOPe. Boehner has already stated the position of the Establishment: capitulation.
I don’t believe repeal would be the problem it seems like. Privatized industry will jump at the chance to compete in a less totalitarian environment. Specialized policies can be created for those with persisting conditions and that is a special focus where some governance might play a role. If done properly, which will never happen via the demoncrat party, it could be a huge, economy boosting success.
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I have been surprised that with all the industry statements that rate hikes and cancellations are coming just after election day that the GOP isn’t leaning on this issue to win the Senate.
Conhusker Kickback, Louisiana Purchase, etc. all the Dems that did this corrupt administrations bribe taking without the people’s or the GOP support, should be punished.
Just why isn’t the GOP taking advantage of millions of cancellations and billions of dollars in premium hikes?
That may be the case, but I'm not ready yet to give up. Having said that - if the re write allows most people - and thus the free market - to be free of it as they wish, then in effect it won't be Obama Care anymore -it will be a much tinier program. But only if the re write brings freedom back into the picture. If there is an opening, customers and the providers will organize themselves in a market based solution. Given a chance, the market "always finds a way."
Here is the link to the quote I pulled: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/22/opinion/alison-lundergan-grimes-kay-hagan-and-other-candidates-avoid-obama.html
The 2016 Democrat nominee would benefit from any repeal attempt by offering up a draconian solution of going all in. Better to change ACA to take it's teeth out.
QUOTING OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”
Repeated over and over by every loyal Democrat---- conning Americans into believing they'd also be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
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LOCK-STEPPING DEMOCRAT PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE.
SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)
SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)
SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)
SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)
SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)
THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)
SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)
SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)
SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)
SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)
SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)
SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)
SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)
SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)
SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)
SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)
SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)
SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I
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THE REASON FOR THAT healthcare.gov is a HUGE voter fraud machine----plugging unsuspecting enrollees into Democrat voter rolls.
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Local couple upset after receiving pre-marked voter registration card from "Covered California" (Cali O/Care)
10news | 03-29-2014 | Preston Phillips / FR Posted by Kevin in California
A local couple called 10News concerned after they received an envelope from the state's Obamacare website, Covered California. Inside was a letter discussing voter registration and a registration card pre-marked with an "x" in the box next to Democratic Party.
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BTW, turns out Obamacare is also a vehicle for consolidating Dummycrat power.....w/ a multi-billion dollar slush fund.
The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, no one in Congress told Americans about Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).
In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion........
....the reasons for all those O/Care delays, fixits, exemptions, waivers, extensions, etc, are becoming crystal clear.
What the rats are doing regarding the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” is equivalent to holding a gun on someone and forcing them to eat dirt and then telling them how much they enjoyed it. It is making health care as affordable as living in the Biltmore house, driving your own personal passenger train and going boating on your own nuclear powered aircraft carrier. OK, so I’m exaggerating a little bit.
I just don’t see it remaining in effect as written with so many Americans destitute; you can’t squeeze blood from a stone, and the government can’t afford healthcare for all.
Democrats assumed earlier this year that ObamaCare would be a political advantage by Election Day. North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan, for example, said in February she wanted to show the Affordable Care Act “is something whose time is come.” A month later Colorado Sen. Mark Udall said “we did the right thing” in passing the law and told voters he “would do it again,” a response echoed by incumbents Mark Pryor (Arkansas) and Mary Landrieu (Louisiana).
It isn’t working out that way. As the election nears, ObamaCare is re-emerging as a major liability for the Democratic Senate that passed it. According to an Oct. 2 Gallup survey, 54% of Americans said the Affordable Care Act had hurt them and their families compared to 27% who said it had helped them.
The White House understands this, so it is not trumpeting the upcoming open-enrollment period when people can sign up for health coverage. Nor are White House officials crowing about last year’s eight million sign-ups, probably because insurance industry officials suggest that 10% or more never fully enrolled by paying their premiums.
Worse for the administration and Democratic candidates, Americans are receiving a steady stream of bad ObamaCare news as the election approaches. The millions enrolled in ObamaCare are being told their premiums will increase next year. According to a recent Manhattan Institute report, premiums for a 40-year-old man are rising in 10 of the 12 states with Democratic-held Senate seats at risk. For a 40-year-old woman, premiums will increase in nine of the 12. Most premium increases will be in double digits.
Then there are the cancellations. In Colorado, for example, the insurance commissioner recently announced that 28,911 people covered by 22,000 policies would lose their insurance at year’s end. This is in addition to 8,200 policies canceled or marked for cancellation earlier this year. Added to last year’s terminations, this means as many as 340,000 Coloradans have lost or will lose their plan, even if they liked it.
In Colorado, New Hampshire and other states, people are being shifted from their plan to another and insurance providers are withdrawing from some states, reducing their choices.
All of this creates anxiety, uncertainty and anger, combining to keep opposition to ObamaCare high. Just 40% said the law was “mostly a good thing for the country” in an Oct. 14 Fox News Poll while 52% said it was “mostly a bad thing for the country.” ObamaCare may also have helped Republicans fight off the Democratic “war on women” campaign theme. Women are often in charge of a family’s health care, and in the Fox survey women disapproved of ObamaCare 46% to 45%.
ObamaCare may have a broader impact on the election by adding to concerns the government is too big and Washington is doing too much. When Americans were asked in a Sept. 7 Gallup survey if “government is trying to do too many things that should be left to individuals and businesses” or if “government should do more to solve our country’s problems,” 54% picked government doing too much and 41% government doing too little.
In that same poll, when asked “how much trust and confidence” they have in our federal government and Washington when it comes to handling domestic problems, 42% answered “not very much” and 17% said “none at all.” The first figure was a record high for this question, which Gallup began asking in May 1972. The latter figure tied record lows in September 2011 and 2013.
The Affordable Care Act alone is not responsible for all this distrust. But on top of all the rest—the anemic economy, the Veterans Affairs scandal, the wave of illegal immigrants that crossed the southern border this summer, IRS targeting of conservatives, the botched “Fast and Furious” gun-running program, early missteps on the Ebola virus and spreading chaos and disorder in the world—ObamaCare has contributed to undermining people’s confidence in the liberal vision of a beneficent, effective, all-knowing, all-doing centralized state.
This issue is now baked in and little is required to remind voters. Even a TV ad tagline about how often a senator (or congressman) votes with Mr. Obama is sufficient. It would be rough justice if ObamaCare caused the defeat of a large number of Democrats who voted for it.
Democrats created ObamaCare, passed it, own it, and will suffer because of it. The holy grail of liberalism for decades, the president’s health law may end up as a decisive cause of two epic midterm defeats for the Democratic Party.
Mr. Rove, a former deputy chief of staff to President George W. Bush , helped organize the political-action committee American Crossroads.
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