Posted on 10/22/2014 6:50:05 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
Liberals would have Americans believe that mass shootings are caused by the ready access to firearms in the United States.
If that were true, however, it would not explain why over nine out of 10 mass shootings occur in areas where it is more difficult to own or carry a firearm, as a recent study proved.
Nor would it explain why mass murders committed with guns, which outnumber bicycles in the United States by a factor of three-to-one, are responsible for about 4% as many deaths as bicycle accidents.
There is, however, a possible link between mass murderers who use guns and numerous other violent incidents, including murders, assaults, and suicides, according to the Liberty Crier (H/T MadWorldNews).
“The overwhelming evidence suggests the single largest common factor in all of these incidents is that all of the perpetrators were either actively taking powerful psychotropic drugs or had been at some point in the immediate past before they committed their crimes,” the report said.
The report cited “multiple credible scientific studies” and “internal documents from certain pharmaceutical companies” as saying that some psychotropic drugs have dangerous but unreported side effects.
Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors can reportedly lead to suicidal or violent behavior in people who take them. The report cites www.ssristories.org as one website that lists over 4,500 such cases.
Liberty Crier provided just a short list of examples:
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I used to be one of the biggest defenders of the Pharm companies in here. Some can agree to that. A simple SSRI given to the wrong person can say turn a 4'10" white quadriplegic female who is very sane just depressed and has PTSD into a person thinking she is Tess on Touched By an Angel. Tinfoil? No! I would sign a sworn affidavit to that fact as a witness. I had to diagnose the condition the doctors were clueless even the shrinks. It's called Serotonin Syndrome. It happened to my wife about 12-13 years ago.
Body chemistry wise Serotonin is a chemical found in a persons body used to promote digestion. Thus roughly 98% should be in the stomach. SSRI's and a few other meds even some OTC cough Meds can cause a migration from the stomach to the brain. When this occurs it can have an effect on the brain as strong as LSD. Hallucinations, anxiety, delusion, increased blood pressure and pulse, and eventually if not stopped death. What they hallucinate is their reality at that time.
What changed to bring on the problem? How medications are introduced into the patients body did and it's created problems all across the medication spectrum in one way or another.
It takes approximately four weeks for antidepressants to reach their full therapeutic level in the blood stream but the adverse reaction can come at any time. Other meds can also trigger it if taken with antidepressants.
Medications used to require a hospital stay for monitoring purposes. Insurers balked and doctors began outpatient treatment. Not that they wanted to but insurers demanded it. This goes for many pain meds as well and how addiction is now a major issues with them. Used to issues were addressed in the hospital and the person stabilized on the meds before discharge.
An increase in the number of patients taking antidepressants has obviously increased.
Technically I am disabled diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder. The protocol treatment at first for me was Xanax. Mention Xanax to health experts and they freak. They wanted me off of it and on antidepressants. They made my anxiety level much higher and my related seizure activity as well triggered by it.
I learned something by happenstance about 18 years ago doctors today still don't consider when dealing with anxiety patients. I do not have General Anxiety Disorder in the clinical sense. Rather I have severe sensory processing disorders that distort my reactions to sights and sounds. The antidepressants especially the SSRI's overtaxed my already damaged Inner Ear and portion of the brain which processes what the Inner Ear sends it. IOW if I had continued taking antidepressants I was a prime candidate for Serotonin Syndrome.
I was lucky. I found a book written by a Neurologist linking anxiety attacks to Inner Ear Cerebellar damage. Getting a doctor too listen to me took over a year. In the mean time I was being told to take meds making this worse and I was having pre - adverse reaction symptoms. What stopped me from going bonkers? The very medication they so greatly feared which was Xanax.
For Vestibular patients Benzodiazepines meds are the safest and most effective. Low dose several times a day. I've been on it 20 years. My wife nearly 30 put on it for anxiety that was triggering a coronary issue. Her xanax use likely saved her life. Benzodiazepines are the protocol antidote to Serotonin Syndrome. Doctors are scared to write Xanax scripts but few think twice about Trazodone. Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, etc. Benzo's can not produce that adverse reaction. There is a dependency factor with Xanax and other benzodiazepines that must be weighed against benefit in long term usage. Both doctor and patient have to understand low but consistent dose.
Yes I believe there is at least partial if not more reason to believe the meds could be triggering some persons. How many? We'll never know and I doubt seriously Serotonin levels in the brain were checked in their autopsies. Many doctors still deny it can happen. If so the ones it happens too honestly do not know what they do. It really deserves major closer looking into.
BTW there are sleep aids on the market now that can cause havoc as well.
Psychiatry needs to catch up about 50 years on what it has ignored in advances in research by other related fields. Many mental health issues are secondary cause and affect from a primary undiagnosed medical issue. Psychiatry needs to become medical detective based rather than symptom treating based. So do doctors before calling in the Shrink.
IOW figure out what's going on because the wrong darn meds may be being used. Today's backbone of Mental Health? LCSW's and some psychologist. They are they actual ones doing one on on weekly in many cases interaction with the patient. The Shrink maybe once in three months in many cases and many resent the LCSW's and psychologist input.
I agree with everything you said.
That said, a sick mind will find a way.
Worst school killing in the nation’s history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
> Psychiatry and psychology are two of the biggest jokes in the history of mankind. I have zero respect for either profession. Their “work” is totally subjective, and most of the time totally ineffective (does anyone know anyone who was ever “cured”, or even made less psycho, after being “treated” by one of these kooks/crooks?), and they often make their patients far WORSE than they were when they started “treatment”.
All you psychiatric “professionals” feel free to flame away - I could care less. Your profession is a joke. Oh wait, that must mean I have some mental disorder and require “treatment”.
I remember what an old police detective told me a long timee ago about psychologist and psychiatrists. He said, “Why do you think they wanted to go into that profession in the first place? it’s because they’re nuts themselves. They’re messed up so they go to school to figure out what’s wrong with ‘em”.
Never forgot that. Seems its true from what I’ve observed as well.
The MILF acronym is already taken. Look it up.
imho the gateway drug for the psychotropic drugs .....is...wait for it.... sugar.
turns out sugar converts into ethanol in the liver. Ethanol is the active ingredient in alcohol.
So the sugar high and crash people get is not like an alcohol high and hangover but the same thing. Only less pronounced—because the alcohol is much less.
That said, kids have diets of carbs and sugar. The white flour carbs convert right into sugar. That’s why a pizza tastes so good and then afterwards you’re pretty sluggish. The white flour converts to sugar in the liver and then converts to ethanol. Which first makes you high and then slams you down.
So before kids have had their first beer in high school, they’ve had their emotions jacked up and slammed down every day of the their life for the previous 14 years.
There always going to be some kids who are especially sensitive to sugar. They get the psychotropic drugs and go wild.
Anytime a murder/suicide occurs the likely cause is that the perp recently stopped taking his anti depressants.
The freedom to carry would mean your death toll wouldn t be as high when thr nutjubs started shooting... They would be taken out almost immediately by armed bystanders.
Your correlation of making guns harder to get to make the death toll less is flawed... True freedom to carry will mean the nutjobs kill less.
Shall not be infringed.
The kind of resentment you’re talking about is universal. Found in any field of discipline—from doctors to teachers, construction workers to bloggers. Anyone who is a slave to their pride will resent another person telling them what to do.
It’s all over the place. The antidote is humility, and true humility has only one source.
As far as LCSW’s and psychologists being the backbone of mental health—I’ve heard of these kinds of therapists practicing necromancy during the session. Psychiatrists wouldn’t touch this kind of thing. And many if not most therapists impose on their patients Buddhist religious tenets disguised as standard therapy (known as “mindfulness”).
1/2 mg of clonazopam here. Xanax is too powerful for this kid. SSRI’s are deadly.
I spent 5 years in therapy mainly for PTSD and secondary with my G.A.D. The therapist got me through the PTSD but even as a long time experienced in anxiety disorders I had him stumped LOL. It was a learning experience for both. I taught him about Vestibular Disorders induced anxiety. Oh he was a skeptic at first. Then I had him do something to humor me. He had a group session elsewhere of anxiety patients. I had him ask them how many of them had feet pain? About half did he said. How many avoid TV, places like Walmart, Home Depot, etc? Same ones did. Vestibular Damage {Inner ear} usually comes early in life pre teens caused by genetic defect, sinus allergies, chronic ear infections etc.
Most Vestibular patients have balance and coordination issues. Some obvious some are not. I can go to a little league or sandlot baseball game and likely tell you which ones have the damage. They swing early, late, duck away, or don't swing at all and it is consistent with no improvement.
Poor mom and dad could not understand how I could destroy any shoes they bought me in less than a month by breaking the sides over. But by age 7 they knew I was only one eye functional. By age 12 the coordination issue became serious enough to require therapy. The reason the shoes wore out is I walk off balance. Now I have to have special made insoles. That's also the reason my therapist other patients feet hurt. In the mean time They also thought I had ADD ADHD and this was before the Ritalin craze began. That was in the mid to late 60's.
In my adulthood at about age 36-38 I put it all together and linked the allergies, Inner Ear, coordination, vision issues, the misdiagnosed ADD ADHD and the anxiety all together. All are of the same origin.
Look up Central Auditory Processing Disorders aka C.A.P.D. There is the ADD/ADHD epidemic LOL. Some a very small percentage of kids have true ADD/ADHD. A high portion have C.A.P.D. and the cognitive behavioral symptoms are very close. But the ADD ADHD meds won't help. A hyperactive kid with ADD given a strong cup of coffee will calm down. A kid with CAPD won't change. But why the epidemic?
Monetary pressures factor in certainly. But up till recently as in less than the past decade kids were not being tested by audiologist or speech pathologist for CAPD. The epidemic trigger due to one simple word. "Technology". I grew up on black and white TV. Only board games and played outside. I really didn't start getting bad till in my thirties when things like store alarms, back up alarms, constant cranked up in store paging etc. It's simple. It's sensory bombardment and the overload in a damaged processing system trigger Cognitive responses. The extent varies greatly. I'm in the worse case scenario category. These things also trigger myoclonic seizures in my shoulder blades and neck as many as a dozen a minute on a bad day. The good news is I'm now at over 50% hearing loss LOL.
Kids today are bombarded everywhere they go with intense auditory and visual input is where I'm coming from.
The PTSD hit at the same time my sensory processing system finally reached a breaking point and that complicated it considerably. Some consider PTSD to be B.S. In a years time my first wife died age 23 of a heart attack. Months later a woman I had began dating went quadriplegic while we were at the mall. She nearly died as well. Three months later we were married and she had three more months spinal rehab. A few years later my step daughter was in a bad wreck I went to the scene of. I saw the RS and paramedics covering her body still entrapped in her car and I assumed the worse. My wife twice afterward had close calls health wise. The straw that broke the camels back was my wreck. A small fender bender for my old Chevy K-5 but it totaled a Honda Civic that rear ended me. No problem till I was checking the driver and saw a baby in a car seat up front eyes closed. Believe it of not it slept through it.
I began have sight sound sensitivity and concentration issues plus the severe spasms/seizures. Retirement came at age 37. The twenty years since have been a learning process. BTW there is no pill for CAPD except possibly a mild antihistamine.
I take a half MG of Xanax 3-4 times daily. The first doctor made the mistake of 2mg twice daily and that won't work. From day one Xanax as such never altered my mood, make me chill, or things recreational users get from it. It simply makes me somewhat functional where I can take care of wife and myself. I've also learned how to head off what I call the Brain Fog of where am I, Why, when did I leave, etc. That experience the first couple of times feels like a stroke. I don't let things go that far now because I learned the triggers and get away for a while from them.
“Grammar police mode off...”
It’s not a grammatical error. Non linguists often use the term over broadly. It’s an error in meaning (semantics).
BTW for some patients probably most SSRI’s work. It seems though that patients who have underlying neurological damage or disorders known to them or unknown it can be dangerous for them more so than Benzos.
You are emphatic that “It’s not the drugs,”
Really?
You got a gored goat?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU
Leaving a defining word out is not a grammatical error, but a semantic preference?
All-righty, then. Thank you Professor.
BINGO!!! Parents put their kids, mostly sons, on these mind altering drugs....what the hell do they expect?
We have, now, the freedom to carry in most states, in most environments.
But most people don't choose to do so.
According to this site, which I don't know the accuracy of, about 11M people have CC permits. That sounds pretty high to me, but let's assume it's accurate.
http://extranosalley.com/?p=56695
That's roughly 1 in 30 Americans. I assume a relatively small percentage of these people are out and about armed at any given time and place, but I have never seen any stats on that. Those I know with CCP here in FL, which has perhaps the nation's highest CCP rate, seldom actually carry.
BTW, also here in FL, we had two recent cases high-profile where a CCP holder gunned down people, apparently inappropriately. One was in an argument over talking in a theater, and the other over loud music at a gas station, the second case recently resulting in a conviction for Murder One. I
I realize such cases are rare, but if you have a large percentage of the population actually armed at any given time, they would inevitably increase.
All I'm trying to say is that any conceivable policy has both costs and benefits. Neither the pro or anti gun types generally want to admit that.
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