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Leading U.S. scientist warns deadly virus is already changing to become more contagious
daily mail ^ | 10/18 | newton

Posted on 10/18/2014 7:27:54 AM PDT by RummyChick

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1 posted on 10/18/2014 7:27:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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‘I have a field team in Monrovia. They are running [tests]. They are telling me that viral loads are coming up very quickly and really high, higher than they are used to seeing.

‘It may be that the virus burns hotter and quicker.’


2 posted on 10/18/2014 7:29:12 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Oh, Joy. Oh, Happiness.


3 posted on 10/18/2014 7:30:07 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: RummyChick
Obama's EbolaGate/October 2014


4 posted on 10/18/2014 7:30:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing's war on Ebola. Fox News & Republicans will fight me.)
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We are obviously selecting for the most contagious bug. In fact, the smartest bugs will be the most likely to make it here, the airborne ones.


5 posted on 10/18/2014 7:30:53 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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What is going on with Typhoid Amber Vinson? Is she bleeding yet?


6 posted on 10/18/2014 7:32:13 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Constant mutation is the rule, not an exception.


7 posted on 10/18/2014 7:32:42 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (ust)
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"The Spanish flu pandemic was truly global, spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. The unusually severe disease killed between 2 and 20% of those infected, as opposed to the more usual flu epidemic mortality rate of 0.1%.[26][36] Another unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults, with 99% of pandemic influenza deaths occurring in people under 65, and more than half in young adults 20 to 40 years old.[40]"

"As many as 25 million may have been killed in the first 25 weeks; in contrast, HIV/AIDS has killed 25 million in its first 25 years.[26]"

8 posted on 10/18/2014 7:34:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Don’t worry. Obama appointed a political hack to head the anti-ebola effort. Everything is under control.

Hey, who’s on Dancing With The Stars next week?


9 posted on 10/18/2014 7:40:51 AM PDT by Signalman
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Two male strippers smarter than Typhoid Amber Vinson and CDC

‘Not rocket science’: Texas male stripper in Ebola self-quarantine shocked CDC didn’t order isolation after he was on plane with sick nurse Amber Vinson

http://www.nydailynews.com/male-strippers-quarantine-flying-ebola-stricken-nurse-article-1.1977644


10 posted on 10/18/2014 7:42:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Is it airborne?


11 posted on 10/18/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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I thought so. I am not a doctor or a medical professional, but have always heard that viruses mutate, and that’s part of how they spread.


12 posted on 10/18/2014 7:45:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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Male strippers....

Wait a minute — what exactly was going on at that nurse’s convention?


13 posted on 10/18/2014 7:46:52 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Army Manual on a thread I posted indicates it’s airborne but it depends on your definition. Aerosol transmission is airborne to me.


14 posted on 10/18/2014 7:48:29 AM PDT by RummyChick
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In fact, the smartest bugs will be the most likely to make it here, the airborne ones.

Liberians will make it here while incubating. There is no reason to expect smarter or dumber viruses to be in those incubators. There is a bit of selection in cases of Liberians with a few bucks to travel versus bush meat eating, corpse washing cultists, but not a lot. What I expect is more of the same old deadly, but spreads with difficulty kind of Ebola showing up here.

15 posted on 10/18/2014 7:48:55 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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It’s how they survive.


16 posted on 10/18/2014 7:53:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (ust)
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Airborne is not the same as aerosolized. In the scientific literature an aerosolized virus has to be mainly bronchial and able to survive outside of droplets (i.e. dry). Ebola does neither. Presumably the presence of Ebola in saliva would allow it to be spread by sneezes:

Of particular concern is the frequent presence of EBOV in saliva early during the course of disease, where it could be transmitted to others through intimate contact and from sharing food, especially given the custom, in many parts of Africa, of eating with the hands from a common plate.
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full

But in general, the science does not support airborne much less aerosol transmission:

"However, in modern hospitals with disposable needles and knowledge of basic hygiene and barrier nursing techniques, the virus rarely spreads on a large scale. Airborne transmission between monkeys was demonstrated during the outbreak of Reston Ebola virus in Virginia, but there is limited evidence of airborne transmission in any human epidemics "
https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Infection_Mechanism_of_Genus_Ebolavirus

17 posted on 10/18/2014 7:54:51 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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Tell that to the Army. They have it in their 2011 manual.


18 posted on 10/18/2014 7:57:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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what exactly was going on at that nurse’s convention?

It was obviously an anatomy continuing-education seminar.

19 posted on 10/18/2014 8:01:50 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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I just downloaded and read the manual. They do say aerosolized as in "These instances have prompted concern of a rare phenomenon of aerosol transmission of infection" in the context of a patient who is bleeding out. Obviously the proper procedure for treating patients in that state is sealed, pressurized suits which we did not do in Dallas.

Interestingly right after that they say "Clinical laboratory personnel are at significant risk for exposure and should employ a biosafety cabinet ..." It could be that blood samples from Duncan were not handled properly and infected the victim aboard the cruise ship.

I'll have to give up on the argument about the term "aerosolized" but continue to stress that any virus including Ebola can be airborne in certain conditions.

20 posted on 10/18/2014 8:17:45 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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