Posted on 10/17/2014 11:21:09 PM PDT by Steelfish
Ebola Scare Sends Caribbean Cruise Ship Back Home Oct 17, 2014 By MEGHAN KENEALLY
PHOTO: Jeremy Malone saw 30 to 40 crew members with buckets of disinfectant who were lined up on along his hallway as they prepared to clean the ship
The presence of a woman who helped care for an Ebola patient who died has left a Caribbean cruise ship unable to dock at foreign tourist ports and is now heading back to Texas.
One passenger said the announcement of the woman's presence has created "utter panic" on the Carnival Magic cruise ship, while others remained outwardly unfazed, sunbathing by the outdoor pool.
"People are scared,” passenger Jon Malone told ABC News as the ship was waiting miles off shore from Cozumel, Mexico. "I’ve seen people crying.”
The chaos started this morning when there was an announcement on the ship’s intercom saying "that someone who worked in the lab who handled the person in Dallas’s blood was on the ship,” Jon’s brother and fellow passenger Jeremy Malone told ABC. The cruise line said the woman is in isolation on board the ship.
"You're using the same buffet line as someone else, the same waiters, the folks that clean the state rooms. If someone was cleaning their state room and cleaned yours right after, the exposure that you have there to elevators..." he said. "It's very tight quarters and a lot of interaction. It's really difficult to control any type of virus that's on a cruise ship. It's like a floating petri dish. It spreads very rapidly."
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The programs you mentioned are actually pipes and valves for draining money from the treasury. The programs are labels to facilitate the theft as being reasonable
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise
That is why you need a political insider as the Obola Czar...Manage the cover-ups, the harddrive crashes, the West African airplane passengers who for no apparent reason die upon approach to America...
Ever been on a cruise? There is no keeping anything quiet, and this lady seems to have been very talkative about her work. Like any small group, rumors spreads and panic ensues.
As an organizer or transportation carrier, you are responsible for the people attending your events or riding your transportation. They had to announce it as soon as it was known. Only governments are allowed to escape culpability, at least for now.
That's why there's travel insurance. One call to the cruise HQ stating you were around Duncan and they'd be writing out a full refund before you hung up. Was that hefty deposit worth being stranded out in the middle of the ocean? How about that lovely scenery and beautiful sunsets inside your room? People don't think anymore. These nurses should have the common sense not to travel. Period.
I read that the plan is to brand a big "E" on your forehead.
This, 'threat', has NOT been contained in Africa. It is popping up all over the world including the US of A. Sending the military in now is a day late and a dollar short. This outbreak should have been contained in West Africa. Our military should not be going to West Africa for any reason, much less to fight this outbreak. It's the African's outbreak, let them deal with it...and kill anyone attempting to leave the infected countries...too harsh, not PC?...too bad...
Strange thing on CNN (?) in the wee hours so I wasn’t paying much attention but there was a phone interview with a supposed passenger on the ship who said nearly word for word as the article interview. BUT, he was claiming no one on board was concerned and everyone was going about their happy vacy as normal.
No, the characteristics of the outbreak mirror just about every other outbreak (of Ebola AND Marburg) in the last 40 years. The only difference is that this time, the virus got into some populated areas.
If a tornado sweeps through a few corn fields, the damage is minimal. But if a tornado sweeps through a residential area, the damage and loss of life can be devastating. The difference in these cases is not that tornadoes have changed, but that they appeared in different areas. The Ebola virus is like that.
What you are listring is consensus, not settled science., Consensus is opinion, nothing more. And when these opinions are presented by gov’t employees that risk losing their income and retirement should thy disagree with their boss, these opinions are worth less than what th MSM offers every day.
What I listed is the synopsis of decades of publications on the subject of Ebola, and I have read hundreds of them. It is not a "consensus", and the term "settled science" is rather misleading. No science is ever settled, but when a preponderance of the evidence shows the same thing, that is as close to "settled" as science ever gets.
I also do not know of any case where a scientist is in danger of losing his/her income or retirement benefits by disagreeing with their "boss" (I guess you mean Obama by that). The boss, if he is not a scientist, is being told what the science actually says. If he can't relay that properly, that is a different issue--the scientists did not explain well, the boss did not understand, whatever.
Also, the WHO and the CDC are big Global Warming activists. Yet another “consensus” that is no where near any kind of settled science.
Really? Ebola has what, exactly, to do with "global warming"? In fact, what does any infectious disease have to do with "global warming"? Are you aware that very few, if any, "global warming" advocate scientists work for the WHO or the CDC? People who work for WHO or CDC are scientists--physicians, molecular biologists, epidemiologists, etc.--whose areas of study do not include "global warming."
The CDC is a political organization no different then the Democratic Party, they long ago ceased being a scientific research organization: global warming, gun control, fat lesbians, school lunches; have been occupying them lately, none of which have anything to do with Disease Control.
I would completely agree that the political issues have no business being pushed onto the CDC. Unfortunately, the fact that politicians (especially leftists) use the CDC to try to further their own agendas is really counterproductive and leads to erosion of trust in the CDC's ability to do its mission. However, there are still very good scientists at the CDC--I would not balk at working there myself--and it plays a crucial role in identifying and controlling disease outbreaks all over the country. I suggest reading the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report to get an idea of the disease and health issues that CDC routinely deals with. I read it every week, or I used to, before Ebola came around.
People can’t resist pushing elevator buttons. It doesn’t matter that some guy pushed a floor button two seconds ago and the light is on, someone is going to reach around six other people and push it three more times.
When I was a kid in the early ’70’s we lived for over a year in Frederick MD not very far from Ft. Detrick.
In fact many of the families who lived in our townhouse development and the school I attended and the church my family attended, had dads and or moms who worked at Ft. Detrick. Although most couldn’t and wouldn’t talk about what they did there, much like the folks I knew years later as an adult living in the Baltimore area who worked at Ft. Meade (NSA) and Edgewood Arsenal and Aberdeen Proving Grounds, we all knew, even in the early 70’s they were working with very deadly pathogens at Ft. Detrick.
And yet somehow, neither I nor anyone I knew ever contracted Anthrax or Small Pox or Ebola from our friends and neighbors who worked in the labs there.
But there were the “stories”. I remember my dad telling my mom and I about some guy he worked with who swore to my dad that he knew they were doing human-animal cross breading experiments and that there were two headed monkeys with human bodies, goats that talked like humans…all sorts of strange stuff and he knew this was absolutely true because a friend of a friend who had a sister who dated a car mechanic who was cousins with a delivery person who was friends with a “soldier” stationed there, told him so….LOL!
As if Anthrax isn’t scary enough. : ),
the ignorance and arrogance of certain medical professionals has been stunning.......
You’ve got that right.
Its not their fault they were exposed, but damn, common sense should tell anyone with even remote contact to at minimum self isolate. The hospital should have issued a directive stating the same.
Too much like closing the barn door once the cows are out.
Thank you for your reply. I guess we will find out if she is sick when the ship arrives on Sunday morning in Galveston.
True about the 2-21 days, but according to the article, she was at day 19, not having handled his samples since he was first tested, so they “believe” she is out of danger. That may be why they agreed to let her stay on the ship and self-isolate. But if she IS sick....
Anyway, thank you for your reply.
There’s a serious freakout going on beneath the radar and behind the “keep calm all is well” PR, is the only conclusion I can reach. Enough detail from last night’s report out of Belize is confirmed that this being imaginative or purely the result of confusion is unlikely.
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We shall soon see. The ship is due to arrive tomorrow morning. Will a ambulance with Hazmat gear be there as well? That may be an indicator of her condition.. I hope she and her husband are OK.
Thank you for all your replies.
You want hysteria, you have to wonder about reactions if Norovirus hits that boat!
You have a very good point. Thank you for your reply.
Where do you get your information from exDem?
“U.S. Soldiers Get Just Four Hours of Ebola Training
As the U.S. military rushes to combat Ebola in West Africa, soldiers are receiving on-the-fly instructions on how to protect themselves against the deadly virus.
American military operations to fight Ebola in Africa are unfolding quickly—forcing the military to come up with some procedures and protocols on the fly.
Soldiers preparing for deployment to West Africa are given just four hours of Ebola-related training before leaving to combat the epidemic. And the first 500 soldiers to arrive have been holing up in Liberian hotels and government facilities while the military builds longer-term infrastructure on the ground.
For soldiers at Fort Campbell and Fort Bragg preparing for their deployments to West Africa, Mobile Training Teams from the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), based out of Fort Detrick, have been tasked with instructing them on Ebola protocols.
A team of two can train as many as 50 personnel over that four-hour time frame, USAMRIID told The Daily Beast. The training includes hands-on instruction on how to put on, remove, and decontaminate personal protective equipment, followed by a practical test to ensure that soldiers understand the procedures.
“All training is tiered to the level of risk each person may encounter,” said USAMRIID spokeswoman Caree Vander Linden.
The training process sounds daunting: One USA Today report described soldiers being told that Ebola “basically causes your body to eat itself from the inside out” and that Ebola is “worse” than what soldiers encountered in Afghanistan. Others reportedly heard that the disease is “catastrophic” and “frightening… with a high fatality rate,” though the chances of contracting it are low.
“I’ll be honest with you,” one soldier told the newspaper. “I’m kind of scared.”
The military maintains that the risk of contracting the virus is minimal. Ebola is not an airborne disease, and there are no plans for U.S. service members deployed to West Africa to have any contact with sick patients.
“I’m not an epidemiologist, but it’s been shown that this disease is most manifest when handling bodily fluid—blood, other sorts of fluids, and there is no plan right now for U.S. soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to do that,” Maj. Gen. Darryl Williams, the officer in charge of America’s operations center in Liberia, told reporters Thursday. “As long as you exercise basic sanitation and cleanliness sort of protocols … I think the risk is relatively low.”
There are just over 500 military service members in West Africa, serving in Senegal and Liberia. A major part of their mission is logistics and construction: The U.S. military is building a 25-bed hospital and 17 Ebola treatment units, as well as training health-care providers in Liberia.
A small number of specially trained soldiers from USAMRIID are at the highest risk, and an exception to Williams’ comment that soldiers are not handling bodily fluids. These service members have been supporting a laboratory in Liberia to run Ebola tests on patient samples, but are also are highly prepared to deal with infectious diseases.
The first 500 American troops in Liberia are so far living in improvised quarters in hotels and government building, according to congressional and military sources. The military is working to transition in the future to “life support areas” that will house the thousands of soldiers who eventually arrive to support the U.S. mission to combat Ebola in West Africa, according to a military spokesman. They are also utilizing local drivers and vehicles to support their movements.
“The hotels are fairly well controlled in terms of access… They have a fairly well-structured screening process going in and out,” a Senate aide briefed by the Pentagon on the military’s procedures told The Daily Beast. “It sounds like they have an adequate level of screening and protective measures in place. That being said, once they move to a self-contained quarters, that will probably be better.”
Thank you for your reply. The CDC has made so much noise about how no one is in any danger unless someone is symptomatic, it makes me think that she may be because of them trying to get her off the ship to an air ambulance— if that is true. We may soon find out.
I hope she is OK.
There to date has not been an outbreak that has killed this many this fast in the history of ebola.
This is a new strain and is different as per the real front line folks fighting this, not the political hacks wearing white smocks in the US
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