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2nd Ebola case in Texas caused by breach in protocol, CDC chief says
Los Angeles Times ^ | 10/12/2014 | KURTIS LEE, MICHAEL A. MEMOLI

Posted on 10/12/2014 12:15:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A federal health official said Sunday there was “clearly” a breach in protocol that led to the infection of a Dallas healthcare worker with Ebola in what is thought to be the first U.S. transmission of the deadly virus.

“We’re deeply concerned about this new development,” Dr. Thomas Frieden, head of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said in an interview on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“I think the fact that we don’t know of a breach in protocol is concerning, because clearly there was a breach in protocol. We have the ability to prevent the spread of Ebola by caring safely for patients.”

President Obama was briefed Sunday on the diagnosis by Lisa Monaco, his homeland security and counterterrorism advisor. He later spoke with Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell, in which he directed that the CDC’s investigation of the apparent protocol breach move “as expeditiously as possible.”

The White House said Obama also ordered federal health authorities to take further steps to ensure that healthcare facilities nationwide are prepared to follow infection control protocols in the event they should confront a possible Ebola case.

Frieden said the worker had been monitoring herself and was promptly isolated when she developed symptoms.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cdc; contagion; ebola; texas; thomasduncan
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To: Black Agnes
Do you think the nurse deliberately infected herself? Or do you think she became infected by simply being human and making a mistake...?

Neither. I think this illness is far easier to spread than the "authorities" dare let us know. All they have been saying is how it takes direct contact with body fluids, from someone who has to be symptomatic, etc etc. The incidents of infection after almost trivial proximity, in some cases, tell a different story than the flunkies and mouthpieces.

90 health care workers in West Africa have caught the disease and died, including four doctors that we know about, and many nurses. These are people well versed in sterile precautions and protocols. Do you think they all died because they were "simply human?"

81 posted on 10/12/2014 6:40:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mrs. P
At the Firestone plantation in Nigeria, the private corporation took matters into their own hands after the first infection among their people. They sealed the compound, used industrial hazmat suits, and stopped the spread cold, with no new infections.

So it can be done, if the "authorities" so desire.

82 posted on 10/12/2014 6:47:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: refermech

Wouldn’t you know, I went to my EMS training tonight and it was on Ebola. We are all screwed.


83 posted on 10/12/2014 7:53:43 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I saw an article on them, they did an amazing job.


84 posted on 10/12/2014 7:54:36 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: garjog

Makes you not want to visit a city that has Ebola, let alone a hospital.


85 posted on 10/12/2014 7:56:32 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Firestone plantation was in Liberia.

Nigeria, controlled and contained outbreak related to exposure to Patrick Sawyer who flew in from Liberia and crashed out at MM airport in Ikeja/Lagos.

Liberia, total basketcase with a few bright spots like the Firestone plantation.


86 posted on 10/12/2014 7:58:46 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: refermech

Ebola can survive on surfaces for up to a week or more. Seems like a long time to me.


87 posted on 10/12/2014 8:01:27 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


88 posted on 10/12/2014 8:38:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tioga

I remember reading that even in the special labs with the fanciest suits- air pressure controls - all the bells & whistles ... People will still balk at working with this virus.

The BS we have been getting fed is astounding.
Clearly - they don’t know everything they need to know - or they want everyone to stay calm & hope for the best.

But there are times when a little well deserved “panic” can scare people into doing the right thing.

There’s no way we can keep playing whack-a-mole & wind up “containing” this.


89 posted on 10/12/2014 8:58:39 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mrs. P

I’m not sure what the official definition of “airborn” is .... But I imagine with all the bodily fluids being expelled with this disease - is has to be putting droplets in the air.


90 posted on 10/12/2014 9:01:46 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: SeekAndFind

Hopefully, protocol was breached in this instance?
Why would I say this???

If the CDC is using the wrong protocol..., then that would confirm the Ebola is Airborne.

The caregiver who contracted Ebola was wearing using “barrier and droplet” guidelines,set by the CDC. She still contracted the virus despite this.

These protocols will not work for an AIRBORNE virus. Airborne protocols are a separate guideline that is much more protective, including respirators and specially equipped isolation rooms.

Which may explain why the Doctor looked very nervous.

Droplet protocol:

http://www.cdc.gov/hicpac/2007ip/2007ip_part3.html

III.B.2. Droplet Precautions Droplet Precautions are intended to prevent transmission of pathogens spread through close respiratory or mucous membrane contact with respiratory secretions as described in I.B.3.b. Because these pathogens do not remain infectious over long distances in a healthcare facility, special air handling and ventilation are not required to prevent droplet transmission. Infectious agents for which Droplet Precautions are indicated are found in Appendix A and include B. pertussis, influenza virus, adenovirus, rhinovirus, N. meningitides, and group A streptococcus (for the first 24 hours of antimicrobial therapy). A single patient room is preferred for patients who require Droplet Precautions. When a single-patient room is not available, consultation with infection control personnel is recommended to assess the various risks associated with other patient placement options (e.g., cohorting, keeping the patient with an existing roommate). Spatial separation of > 3 feet and drawing the curtain between patient beds is especially important for patients in multi-bed rooms with infections transmitted by the droplet route. Healthcare personnel wear a mask (a respirator is not necessary) for close contact with infectious patient; the mask is generally donned upon room entry. Patients on Droplet Precautions who must be transported outside of the room should wear a mask if tolerated and follow Respiratory Hygiene/Cough Etiquette.


91 posted on 10/12/2014 9:16:03 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: miserare

This what scares the hell out of them. Everyone, everything will be at fault as long as they don’t have to say the word “AIRBORNE”. Once they say that, Katy bar the door. Panic will set in, economy will probably go south so fast it will create a vacuum, and, air traffic will halt. But this government will never see that, or admit it. SHTF time folks, it could be close.


92 posted on 10/12/2014 9:52:56 PM PDT by rustyboots
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To: Steely Tom
Exactly.

They don't know of a breach in protocol and they have to keep putting the lie out there about how difficult it is to catch.

Poor nurse. My prayers are with her!!!

93 posted on 10/12/2014 10:46:16 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Steely Tom
[Breach in Protocol] == [Blame the Victim]

My thoughts too - I guess that the CDC will also blame the same breach in protocol when all the untrained/unprepared civilians and run-of-the-mill LPNs, etc., don't follow the "rules".

I haven't seen them put out any "suggestions" for the general population yet.

94 posted on 10/13/2014 2:16:12 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“At the Firestone plantation in Nigeria, the private corporation took matters into their own hands after the first infection among their people. They sealed the compound, used industrial hazmat suits, and stopped the spread cold, with no new infections.”

This is the first I’ve heard of that. Firestone, as in the tire company?


95 posted on 10/13/2014 2:45:59 AM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: Mrs. P
From what I’ve read, they are saying there must have been a breach in procotol because otherwise this nurse would be OK and NOT have ebola.

We know the protocols work because in this case the protocols failed, which obviously means the protocols (which work, by definition) were breached.

96 posted on 10/13/2014 2:50:13 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s kind of like global warming.

Rising temperatures mean global warming. Falling temperatures mean global warming.

Failed protocols mean the protocols work.


97 posted on 10/13/2014 2:51:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Scotswife

I think people don’t use the term airborne correctly. Aerosolization is easy enough to do with almost anything, and that makes it carried by the air...


98 posted on 10/13/2014 2:51:14 AM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: tioga
This is the second nurse to have taken care of a patient and gotten Ebola for her efforts. BOTH were in western countries and BOTH were at fault? Perhaps fault lies with the deadly disease and the CDC is full of it. Ban all traval from those countries to ours, stop giving visas. Stop flights from there. Do SOMETHING!

To a certain extent I blame our side. How many people continue watching sports and other entertainment while the greatest plague in history gathers steam inside our borders? We are the ones sitting idly by doing nothing while the liberals hand our children over to a virus in the name of the great god cultural diversity.

I am not a leader, but I will join any movement that pops up to put a stop to this. Is there one out there? I will join today.

99 posted on 10/13/2014 2:54:51 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


100 posted on 10/13/2014 3:06:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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