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Obama designates national monument in LA area
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/10/14 | DARLENE SUPERVILLE

Posted on 10/12/2014 5:02:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1

President Barack Obama on Friday spared from future development nearly 350,000 acres of land within the San Gabriel Mountains northeast of Los Angeles, a move that cheered environmentalists but sparked new criticism of Obama's willingness to use his executive authority.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; grab; nationalmonument; sangabriel
A lot of the drinking water for Los Angeles comes from these Mountains.
1 posted on 10/12/2014 5:02:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Well, the real problem with water is how our government through subsidies has produced a distorted picture of the availability of water in areas of the nation such as California. I wonder some days if any environmentalists actually want subsidies down so that water costs better reflect its availability.


2 posted on 10/12/2014 5:07:15 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Enlightened1

More control


3 posted on 10/12/2014 5:10:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Enlightened1

Whatever happened to States Rights?


4 posted on 10/12/2014 5:15:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Enlightened1

5 posted on 10/12/2014 5:16:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Enlightened1

We Angelenos are not happy.


6 posted on 10/12/2014 5:26:25 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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What makes you unhappy?

The area will be open for public access.

I spent a week in La, actually Ontario, on business. I woke one morning and lo and behold...... mountains, right there behind the Holiday inn. I had been there three days and the mountains were obscured by smog

7 posted on 10/12/2014 5:42:26 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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It might have been haze, not smog. At certain times of year it is hazy every single morning.


8 posted on 10/12/2014 5:50:37 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: bert
The area will be open for public access.

Just make sue you get your permit before taking any pictures.

9 posted on 10/12/2014 5:52:37 AM PDT by BigBobber (`)
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To: BigBobber; bert

That’s right it will only cost you $1,500 to take a photo.


10 posted on 10/12/2014 5:56:11 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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I have a Golden Eagle pass that permits entry etc for free.


11 posted on 10/12/2014 5:59:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Ontario is at the very east end of the basin. The marine layer comes in this time of year and pushes all the air eastward, where it piles up against the high mountains. It’s a problem other cities would have with similar geography. When the desert winds come in, it is clear and lovely.

Knowing the o-man, he will try to control: the shooting ranges (out of existence), any little coffee shops along the way (capitalism is bad, you know), the light bulbs, the plastic bags, and probably what is on the lunch trays. The ski areas will be told they must - what?? - hire racial quotas, regardless of their expertise? Cease and desist? God knows what he has in mind.

I believe in subsidiarity, in local control of everything that can be taken care of locally, and I do not like the land-grabs.


12 posted on 10/12/2014 6:41:53 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bert
$80 annually for “free” entrance.
13 posted on 10/12/2014 6:49:49 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: bert

That wasn’t smog.


14 posted on 10/12/2014 7:14:23 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Enlightened1
A lot of the drinking water for Los Angeles comes from these Mountains.

It used to, until they paved the San Gabriel river and dried up all the artesian wells.

15 posted on 10/12/2014 7:16:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Excellence

For those of us in the eastern mountains, we have trouble distinguishing smog from haze.

I guess it’s like Eskimos having several words for snow. In La La Land they apparently have several words for bad air


16 posted on 10/12/2014 2:16:24 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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For almost the entire spring the weather report will say, “Late night and early morning low clouds and fog, giving way to hazy sunshine in the afternoon.” It’s yucky down there!
I live at the top of the I-15, well east of Victorville. We don’t get that stuff up here. Yet, occasionally, I can smell the ocean. Go figure.


17 posted on 10/12/2014 3:00:58 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: P-Marlowe; Enlightened1
Owens Lake, before and after LA water theft:


18 posted on 10/12/2014 7:20:07 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala; P-Marlowe; Enlightened1
That photo was actually the Aral Sea... but conceptually the same as what LA did to the Owens River Valley (they didn't have satellite photography in the early 1900s).

The lake is mostly dry now.

19 posted on 10/12/2014 7:41:05 PM PDT by Rodamala
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"And I'm not finished," Obama said, making the announcement at Frank G. Bonelli Regional Park, where picturesque views of the San Gabriel Mountains under blue sky provided the backdrop.

Yeah.,. Cameras were facing eastward from the swim beach at Bonelli, you would have had to look left (and away from The One) to see the San Gabriel's, only nothing you could see would be part of the national monument, which excluded the front range and the San Dimas Experimental Forest.

Obama and his three escort helicopters didn't even fly over the important national monument on the way to the speech from the Democrat fundraiser.

20 posted on 10/12/2014 8:08:08 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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