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For Ben Affleck, It's Ridicule Before Reason
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2014 | Tony Katz

Posted on 10/11/2014 6:15:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

Ben Affleck's recent turn on Real Time with Bill Maher - his ranting, nonsensical and history-altering tripe during a smart, reasoned and valuable conversation about Islam and the world - exposes a myriad of truths about the actor and director, and about Liberalism.

The conversation between Maher and author Sam Harris started off reasoned and clear; Liberals need to stand up for liberal principles, and Liberals need to be honest about these principles when speaking about the Muslim world. After just 60 seconds of conversation between the two, Affleck interjected with his first of many caustic statements. His demeanor was aggressive from that one minute mark, and only got more aggressive and dismissive as the conversation went on.

Was it this anger that made Affleck unable to properly quote the Declaration of Independence? After asking Harris if he was the only person who could "codify" the doctrine of Islam (a strange, odd, peculiar question meant to incite,) Affleck said:

You're saying, if you want to be liberals, believe in liberal principles. Like Freedom of speech. Like we are endowed by our cre... forefathers with inalienable rights. That all men are created equal.

Affleck couldn't say "Creator." Why? That's the phrase. "We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

It wasn't our forefathers who gave us those rights; they come from Nature and Nature's Law. Getting away from a man, like a king, giving other men their rights is exactly the thing they were declaring independence from!

So why couldn't Affleck say it? Did he simply forget in the haze of his growing anger? Or, would the admission of the truth make him a traitor to his Ideological Obedience; to Liberalism.

Credit Evan Sayet for his work on the Unified Field Theory of Liberalism. Today's Liberal in America isn't just wrong. They are as Sayet posits, "As Wrong As Wrong Can Be," and they will, with all facts and truths at their disposal, side with evil over good, wrong over right, and the despot over a freely elected leader and people.

Everyone watching and listening understood that Maher and Harris were discussing radical Islam. If Affleck could have simply contained his disgust for Maher at that moment, he would have heard Harris try (and he tried multiple times) to "unpack" his thesis.

Harris explained clearly his view of concentric circles in Islam. He named three of them - Jihadists, Islamists and then the "conservative" Muslim. Harris repeatedly stated that it is these inner most circles (and not Muslims as a whole) that are the problem. It was Maher who interjected, rightly, that Muslims as a whole (and not just in the United States) seem far too indifferent to these inner circles. To back his claim, Maher pointed to a PEW poll in Egypt, where 90% of the population supported the death penalty for those who leave Islam.

CNN's Dean Obeidallah disagreed with this point, stating:

Maher then cited a Pew Research poll that he claimed found that 90% of Egyptians supported the death penalty for those who left Islam. I'm not sure where Maher got his numbers, but a 2013 Pew poll actually found only 64% of Egyptians supported this -- still alarmingly high, but not 90%

Oh. 64% see it as a positive. That's so much better.

Affleck would have none of Harris's facts and Maher's data. He called their comments "ugly," and accused them of both racism and anti-Semitism, trying to compare Harris' statements to someone who says Jews are "shifty" or saying something negative about black people. (Affleck didn't get too specific on what would be said about black people, but he made sure to bring it up to try and denigrate those he disagrees with.)

Even New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof joined the racism bandwagon, saying Harris and Maher's comments had a, "...tinge a little bit of the way white racists talk about African Americans."

There was no refuting of facts. No mention from Affleck or Kristof of other polling data or empirical evidence to counter what Maher and Harris stated. There were no anecdotes, other than not blaming all Muslims for the acts of the Jihadists and Extremists, which Maher and Harris repeatedly stated and agreed with.

Reason was not Affleck's mission. Ridicule was.

Back to the CNN article, Obeidallah wasn't done. He also stated what he saw as a huge problem with Maher's position on Islam:

Maher's remarks dismayed American Muslims across the country but won applause from all the hosts on Fox News' "The Five." When you're a progressive and a gaggle of Fox News hosts praises your views, you know something is seriously wrong.

And this is the problem with the American Liberal. As Obeidallah sees it, the issue with Maher's viewpoint is that conservatives agree with it! Why is Affleck so pissed in this segment? Not because he actually cares about Islam or Muslims, but because Bill Maher didn't stick with the Liberal/Progressive point of view!

For Affleck and Obeidallah, Maher committed a crime! The crime was he used his eyes, his ears and his mind to recognize a problem and then spoke out about the problem. The crime was honesty. Honesty is not allowed in progressive circles.

The punishment for such a crime? Ridicule, shame and - at times - outright abandonment. Whether that be a lifetime ban, or a specific time frame unknown to the victim. Just ask Juan Williams.

Affleck, Obeidallah and the Progressives lie - to us, themselves and each other - daily. Liberals/Progressives view honesty as a crime. Affleck couldn't be honest about the threat of radical Islam nor the words in the Declaration of Independence, because to do so would be hurtful to his Ideological Obedience to Liberalism.

That just isn't allowed. The ridicule will continue.


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To: GOPJ

Holey moley Batman he’s stupid.


21 posted on 10/11/2014 6:54:29 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Salamander

He will never touch Bale’s Batman, he was a Conservative and in the last two was George Bush. Afflick will be a liberal and stink up the entire movie.

When it comes to Islam, liberals have to be tolerant which is close to sainthood. Intolerance is their only sin.

Pray America wakes up


22 posted on 10/11/2014 6:56:28 AM PDT by bray (Read: Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals cannot be honest about liberal principals. If they were they couldn’t be liberals. Their principals make absolutely no sense.


23 posted on 10/11/2014 7:01:33 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: allendale
The real problem is that there are too many vapid people (voters) who worship celebrities and take this fool seriously.

Excellent point.

Liberalism - leftism - is at its core authoritarian. It is populist in the sense that it offers a comfortable haven of intellectual pretension for those too uninformed to develop a set of opinions.

Liberal followers are uniformly uninformed. They will parrot edicts propounded by those they respect without consideration. Because liberal positions are based on emotion rather than reason they are not interested in trivialities like facts, truth or knowledge.

24 posted on 10/11/2014 7:08:13 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Kaslin

My son told me the ancient Greeks thought actors needed to be of low intelligence so they could more easily play their character. That is because low intelligence people don’t have a firm grasp of reality and they could create reality in their character.


25 posted on 10/11/2014 7:30:28 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: Kaslin

This goes to the theory that a lot of leftism is based on toxoplasmosis, a protozoa infection in the brain that may affect anywhere from 11-30 million Americans.

To explain, the usual life cycle of the protozoa is between rodents and cats. It can only reproduce in the gut of a cat, so it is vital that the cat eats an infected rodent.

To bring this about, the protozoa has evolved a very unusual technique. When it detects the chemical signals for fear in the rodent’s blood, it releases an enzyme that makes the rodent’s brain secrete two chemicals: dopamine, the “pleasure chemical”, and GABA, the “wakefullness/drowsiness” chemical.

This means, when the rodent senses something that it *should* be afraid of, and has a fear response, its brain is instead filled with feelings of drowsy pleasure. Which, over time, “retrains” its brain to be attracted to that which it *should* fear.

In the case of rodents, when they smell cat urine, they *should* be afraid, and depart in the opposite direction. But with the protozoa, they are instead attracted to the smell of cat urine, enter the territory of a cat, and are eaten by the cat. The protozoa has retrained them to be destroyed.

From cat feces or undercooked meat, humans can get the protozoa as well, and chemically, our brains have similar mechanisms to the brains of rodents.

Humans are not afraid of the smell of cat urine. But there are other things that humans *are* afraid of, and *should* be afraid of.

Associating this with leftism is not hard. Leftists have some weird compulsions, like being attracted to people that truly hate Americans and want to annihilate us.

On a more subtle note, it seems that their training also has other effects as well: first, that leftists are repelled by things and people that are healthy, wholesome, beneficial, and friendly. Second, that they are attracted to all sorts of behaviors that are extremely unhealthy, such as drugs, irresponsible and perverse sexual behavior, etc. And third, a dangerous one, that they are not just content with self-immolation; they want to harm as many people as possible as they destroy themselves.

That their efforts to do so are remarkably irrational has no impact on them, for they are beyond rationality.

A great example is their profound rejection of any form of missile defense for the United States. The best thing they can imagine to support this bizarre idea is that missile defenses are “provocative”, and would encourage our enemies to launch missiles at us.

But it leads to Ben Affleck, and his profound love for murderous Muslims. Bill Maher *may* be a “genuine” leftist, who is balking at least at some of the irrationality. Not a mind controlled zombie person.


26 posted on 10/11/2014 7:31:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Vaquero

Exactly. Republicans/Conservatives need to start employing ridicule. Sadly, it’s not in our nature.


27 posted on 10/11/2014 7:35:00 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: allendale

And THAT is why Obama has gained the WH twice. He is nothing but an actor (albeit a very destructive one), reading other people’s words from a teleprompter and carousing with other celebrities. He only really gets into trouble when he goes off teleprompter. I WISH this country had awakened to the destruction before November, 2012. If it’s not close, they can’t cheat. As for Ben Affleck, he has achieved well above his abilities in Hollyweird. Should be falling in the next few years.


28 posted on 10/11/2014 7:38:48 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: originalbuckeye
Exactly. Republicans/Conservatives need to start employing ridicule. Sadly, it’s not in our nature.

Challenge accepted.

29 posted on 10/11/2014 7:52:56 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (There will be another crusade in our lifetime.)
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To: Kaslin

Bill Maher is at least right-er than Affleck. But its nice to see him get a little taste of some of the hate he’s given conservatives over the years. Perhaps he may even emerge from this a little wiser about the people he’s usually aligned with.

Think of it as Kharma, Bill.


30 posted on 10/11/2014 7:56:39 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The ferguson rioters, looters and arsonists are DOMESTIC LEFT WING TERRORISTS)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Holey moley Batman he’s stupid.

LOL

31 posted on 10/11/2014 8:01:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there has been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: Kaslin
I'm sure Wise Ben Affleck can fly over and straighten out their misunderstanding of peaceful Islam.


32 posted on 10/11/2014 8:09:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bratch

33 posted on 10/11/2014 8:10:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2banana

Well, that’s one of his problems: He can’t act.


34 posted on 10/11/2014 8:14:43 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The concentric circle principle is also the foundation of liberal opposition to Christianity. Curiously the same theory of all things does not apply to their own position.

Liberalism is nieve Leninism, best exemplified by Obama. The fawning adoration of his hole-liness is based on his ability to apply regurgitated communist principles in every context. This makes him a genius, capable of lowering the oceans and cleaning the air.
The simple fact that Obama’s deeply ingrained ideology bears no application to reality is his undoing.


35 posted on 10/11/2014 8:16:57 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: GOPJ

Ditto.


36 posted on 10/11/2014 8:21:28 AM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: Kaslin

Good article.


37 posted on 10/11/2014 8:30:51 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: allendale

I went and saw the new “Gone Girl” movie. I was expecting a great thriller. It was just ok. Nothing to brag about.


38 posted on 10/11/2014 9:04:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: Kaslin

Affleck’s just another member of goofywood they all have money but no brains they make a living doing what they are told to say and do.


39 posted on 10/11/2014 9:28:36 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: GOPJ
The punishment for such a crime? Ridicule, shame and - at times - outright abandonment. Whether that be a lifetime ban, or a specific time frame unknown to the victim.

There will be no lifetime ban, for obvious reasons . . .


40 posted on 10/11/2014 9:31:31 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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