Here we go again. Another Police shooting in Missouri

Hotair ^ | 10/09/2014 | Jazz Shaw

[SeekAndFind]

In what is already being cited by the media as a flashback to the events in Furguson, there has been another shooting in the St. Lois area involving a white police officer and a black teenager. This one has several twists, however, which at least initially make it sound like a different set of circumstances. But the resulting protests look eerily similar.

Another police-involved fatal shooting of a teenager, this time in south St. Louis not far from the Missouri Botanical Garden, led to hours of protests overnight Wednesday and into Thursday morning as an angry crowd gathered quickly when news spread across social media.Another police-involved fatal shooting of a teenager, this time in south St. Louis not far from the Missouri Botanical Garden, led to hours of protests overnight Wednesday and into Thursday morning as an angry crowd gathered quickly when news spread across social media…

Relatives and police identified the dead man as Vonderrit Myers Jr., 18.

The differences between this and the Michael Brown case become apparent fairly quickly as you work through the story. First of all, the officer was off duty and working a second job as a security officer. Also, the “armed” status of the teenager is described by police as being decidedly different, though there are those contesting that aspect of the report.

The teen had a gun and fired at least three shots at the officer, who returned fire, the chief said. The teenager attempted to fire more but his gun jammed, Dotson said.

The officer was unhurt. The officer fired 17 times, Dotson said. It is unclear how many times the teenager was struck…

Authorities found the gun, which appeared to have jammed after firing at least three rounds, at the scene, police said. Three bullets that had been fired toward the officer were also recovered. One bullet was found in a vehicle behind the officer. Trajectories showed they had been fired downhill at the officer, police said.

Police initially identified the gun as a 9 mm Ruger. But a police source told the Post-Dispatch that the gun Myers fired at the officer was a 9 mm Smith & Wesson, which was bought at Cabela’s in Hazelwood on May 5. It was then reported stolen Sept. 26 by a man from The Ville neighborhood. The owner told police that one of his sons stole the gun. When questioned, the son claimed the gun was stolen from him during a robbery that he did not report to police. It’s unclear how Myers acquired the weapon, police said.

Some are claiming that the teen was unarmed and only had a sandwich. And, in fact, the shooting took place near a shop where the counter worker reported that Myers had indeed purchased a turkey sandwich. He also said that Myers “didn’t have a gun” when he bought the sandwich, but it is not made clear how he could possibly have known that, nor how he ruled out the possibility that Myers had both a gun and a sandwich.

As usual, we’ll need to reserve final judgement until more facts are in. But if the police, including the off duty officer involved in the shooting, are trying to fake this one, they would almost certainly be found out. They say they have the gun. They say the gun fired three shots and was jammed. They claim to have all three of the bullets, including one which was fired into the car next to the officer. If the accusers who claim that Myers was unarmed are correct, such specific claims by the police are going to prove essentially impossible to hold up.

Also, the recent status of Myers in terms of criminal activity looks to be far more clear cut than in the Brown case. He was wearing a monitoring bracelet at the time of the shooting, the result of a previous court case involving a gun charge. The weapon fired at the officer was not legally owned and registered, but reported as being stolen one or more times, and it was “unclear how Myers acquired the weapon” according to officers on the scene.

Calls are already going out for a blue ribbon investigation of the off duty police officer, however. So buckle up, campers. I think we’re off on another long ride.

[blueplum]

livestreams:

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3424523

a bit earlier, they burned some flags. Scuffle about half hour ago, don’t know about what but Mustafa (Iammikebrown feed) and Reb claim to have been peppersprayed while on the sidewalk as it seemed someone was on the ground being arrested.
Police line has formed on Grand, and there’s the usual onesided shouting match going on at the moment

[Celtic Conservative]

This one is about as clear-cut as it gets. But the race pimps will still try to twist the truth around like a balloon animal.

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[blueplum]

these idiots are complaining the officer shot too many times. So, if someone gets off three rounds in your direction and is still pulling the trigger, how many shots in response is ‘too many” for these damned fools?

[TChad]

He was unarmed except for the gun.

[steve86]

That was yesterday. Already protesting last night.

[Celtic Conservative]

The cop just should’ve shut up and taken the bullet, you know- in the interests of racial harmony.

/sarcasm>

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[WilliamofCarmichael]

I say again. Whites are more apt than any other group to be killed at the time of arrest. Though the off-duty cop was responding to a crime at that instant. It was leading to an arrest. Yes there are at least six times as many whites than blacks.. but the crime statistics show blacks not that far behind in numbers of offenders.

The FBI and other sources of homicide by law enforcement figures below include the majority of all police departments.

The point of this reply is to point out that whites are the most likely to die while being arrested.

The Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry will of course exploit all shootings to the max vis-a-vis race more than any concern for the poor victim.

The ARD data show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police.

But the main point is I bet that policemen don't care about race compared to protecting themselves from being killed or maimed.

And what about Ms Carey the unarmed, young black woman chased, surrounded and gunned down by federal agents in D.C.? Where's the Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry caring about her and her baby?

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death	2003-2009	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009
All manners	4,813	627	673	689	721	745	629	729
Homicide —by law enforcement	2,931	376	375	377	447	455	404	497
by other persons	27	3	4	4	2	7	3	4
Suicide	541	60	84	82	67	78	76	94
Intoxication	525	83	83	90	76	89	54	50
Accidental injury	272	53	41	47	39	35	28	29
Natural causes	244	26	46	32	34	42	33	31
Unknown	273	26	40	57	56	39	31	24

Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic characteristics	All manners	Homicide	Suicide	Intoxication	Accident	Natural causes	Unknown
Total	4,813	2,958	541	525	272	244	273
Sex
Male	4,594	2,851	517	490	259	218	259
Female	218	107	24	35	13	26	13
Unknown	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic	2,026	1,233	327	178	95	110	83
Black, non-Hispanic	1,529	937	80	217	111	85	99
Hispanic	949	599	110	109	55	29	47
Other*	150	107	12	17	4	4	6
Unknown	159	82	12	4	7	16	38
Age
17 or younger	127	99	6	5	13	0	4
18-24	909	685	80	53	54	10	27
25-34	1,391	893	140	177	65	41	75
35-44	1,238	658	159	190	78	66	87
45-54	752	390	105	84	45	75	53
55 or older	317	188	44	11	12	52	10
Unknown	79	45	7	5	5	0	17

*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

[RobinOfKingston]

... a blue ribbon investigation ...

Yeah, r-i-i-i-i-ght! Those things always instill confidence. Fer shur.

[Busko]

The leftist race baiters are trying like hell to get the fires burning again. They messed up the first one, now they are at it again.

[UCANSEE2]

Ya know, an armed and wanted felon being gunned down after firing three times at a cop he was fleeing would not even have been a blimp on the radar if it weren’t for ‘black racism’.

Why is it the cop’s fault that the armed felon was ‘black’ ?

[Sivad]

I prefer this headline: “Thug Kills Self While Stealing
Lead From Discharged Police Weapon.

[UCANSEE2]

these idiots are complaining the officer shot too many times.

This complaint comes from those who like using an Uzi in a drive-by because it's fully automatic.

[Fledermaus]

In the 60’s and 70’s cops would just stop going into areas where they weren’t allowed to do their jobs. How did that help those communities?

I’ve lived in cities where people would say “you just don’t go there”. One is Nashville (I live in Franklin TN) back around 1990 when lower Broadway and 2nd Ave. were off limits. Crime, homeless everywhere, boarded up buildings, prostitution in open.

[2ndDivisionVet]

President of Black Lawyers For Justice Malik Shabazz: There Will be a “Rebellion” if Officer Darren Wilson is not indicted!
http://radio.foxnews.com/2014/10/09/president-of-black-lawyers-for-justice-malik-shabazz-there-will-be-a-rebellion-if-officer-darren-wilson-is-not-indicted/

[Vendome]

It was not another police shooting.

The man defended himself against a thug who shot at him 1st.

The cop prevented a murder.

[Attention Surplus Disorder]

” If the accusers who claim that Myers was unarmed are correct, such specific claims by the police are going to prove essentially impossible to hold up.”

What an ass backwards way of looking at anything. The accusers’ testimony that Myers was unarmed is just typical “wasn’t me” lying bulls**t. Compared to a gun with the shooters’ prints on it, with 3 fired bullets and the recovered slugs as items of evidence? Please.

[blueplum]

The more they burn flags and the more they call for lynching of the grand jury and innocent business owners the more public support they are losing - the politeness of HongKong makes St Louis a complete embarrassment

[2ndDivisionVet]

Having lived in Asia for years that doesn’t surprise me in the least.

[House Atreides]

Looked at the live feeds a bit. It appears to me that the “crowd” is simply a bunch of hollow people with no meaning or purpose in their lives. They are unhappy and sad people.