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The new AIG lawsuit should enrage every American taxpayer
Market Watch ^ | 07 October 2014 | David Weidner

Posted on 10/08/2014 8:42:41 PM PDT by Lorianne

Imagine you have a friend who drinks a lot and often.

Until now, they always seem to have a good time. He tells the best stories, gets all the girls. He’s the life of the party.

Then, one day, he wrecks his car. And you and some buddies, who happened to be in the neighborhood, see your pal trapped. Of course, you rush to the rescue. You try to break open the door with a tire iron. Ultimately, you smash the window and pull the poor fellow out. And just when you’d think this guy would sober up and see the recklessness of his ways, he looks you in the eye and says without blinking: “You need to pay for my door and windshield.”

This is the story of American International Group Inc. AIG, +1.96% and its longtime leader, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg. Greenberg, as I mentioned last week, is suing the U.S. government over the $180 billion bailout given to AIG in 2008. Up until then, AIG was the life of the party. Huge profits. Strong growth. AIG was an ATM. It earned $14 billion in 2006, $10.5 billion in 2005 and $11.05 billion in 2004.

But it was lubricated with risk. Oops. The insurer reported $99 billion in losses in 2008 and lost $3.37 billion through the first nine months of 2009.

(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: aig; bailout; lawsuit; propertyrights; tarp

1 posted on 10/08/2014 8:42:41 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

AIG shoulda been put down years ago.


2 posted on 10/08/2014 8:49:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lorianne

“until then, AIG was the life of the party. Huge profits. Strong growth. AIG was an ATM. It earned $14 billion in 2006, $10.5 billion in 2005 and $11.05 billion in 2004.”

AIG thought they would never have to actually pay off on the reinsurance they were writing, which got riskier and riskier.


3 posted on 10/08/2014 8:50:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Paladin2

AIG is a miserable excuse for a company. They are underhanded.

They need to be dumped in the ash can and disappear forever.


4 posted on 10/08/2014 8:58:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (There is no collateral damage.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Any and all Fed oversight is lame and governed by contribution$.


5 posted on 10/08/2014 9:00:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2; All

Lehman Brothers almost doubled their CEO salary for 2007 to 2008, and got clobbered. Goldman Sachs did the same and they are still riding high. Is it depends on who is in the cabinet under which administration.


6 posted on 10/08/2014 9:02:39 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Sequoyah101

Derivatives need to be prohibited as they make no economic sense and put us all at risk.


7 posted on 10/08/2014 9:05:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lorianne
What Cooked The World’s Economy?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2209313/posts

And...

Here’s the link for the evidence in the information from the “Bank for International Settlements,” as mentioned in the full version of the excerpted article linked above.

http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy0805.pdf

...and a quote from it.

“The over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market showed relatively steady growth in the second half of 2007, amid the turmoil in global financial markets. Notional amounts of all categories of OTC contracts rose by 15% to $596 trillion at the end of December (Table 1), following a 24% increase in the first half of the year.1”


More on what happened in 2007-2008.

China’s imploding US ally (AIG)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084468/posts

AIG: Inquiring Minds Want To Know
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192489/posts
(China)

Fed won’t say who helped by AIG rescue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200398/posts

Top U.S., European Banks Got $50 Billion in AIG Aid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2201213/posts

China appeals to Washington to safeguard assets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2205693/posts

U.S. Federal Reserve to buy up to US$300B long-term Treasury bonds
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2209403/posts

8 posted on 10/08/2014 9:26:01 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Lorianne

from comments to the article:

Jimi lee 13 hours ago

I agree that the taxpayers are going to be mad but not for the reasons you state. This suit is different. Up until know all action has been to recover money from operating Banks and institutions. These institutions must have government approval to operate so they have been negotiating and the government accepting “fines” to keep the matter out of court. This one will be in court and it is being brought by shareholders not institutions. Why does this matter? Because the shareholders have no fear of government reprisals. This means that finality the actual truth of what happened will come out on the recorded in court and you and I will not like it.

The big three are being brought to the carpet in what really happened and be forced to tell the truth. The scenario unfortunately will go something like this.

There was a nice plan to help some people out who had run into some bad circumstances so the during the Carter administration the congress passed the Community reinvestment act (CRA). This was so popular that each and every president and congress continued it and added a little more help because the votes were great.

Of course this started to generate some small quantities of “toxic paper” meaning higher default rates. This was ok until the program started to get pushed heavily by Frank, Kennedy, and others including republicans over the decades. The paper started to get too risky and the companies issuing the mortgage complained that risk and cost to insure where to high.

The government winked and told them that the program was good and that they had to fined a creative way to shelter the risk. So they did. They came up with all kinds of loans and started to package the toxic paper with quality paper (debt) that investors bought and sold. They were popular because the yield was higher to compensate for the risk. But the toxic paper was growing and growing until again the companies said enough. and again the government with wink said be creative. So they did again and they created collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) which are like mortgage insurance except these are for the big boys to insure debt investments against default. That is where AIG comes in. They insured the CDOs but unfortunately they were late to the party and the music stopped with AIG, LB, Merrill, and with no chairs. They took the risk right in the face.

With these guys basically about to go under, the US taxpayer had to set in and bail out AIG. The others, with all the jobs were basically sacrificed in the name of saving the banking system.

So then, the greed of power in the politicians to created a dangerous game that grew and grew and was willing agreed to by financial institution driven by profits destroyed Trillions in the peoples wealth and cost tens of Millions of jobs. Unfortunately, this was not the case of few greedy men. The game was so popular that governments and financial institutions all over the world decide to create their own and play it too. In the end the financial crisis came and the rest is history. By the way, we are attempting to start the game over except the pressure is coming from AG holder to force banks again to make risky loans all in the name of inequality but it is really votes, power, and greed. Nice

I expect the government will settle out of court to keep the truth suppressed and claim it was better to move on then to draw this out and politically blame the greed few men from the small street in NYC.

Lesson, keep politicians out the markets because when you mess with mother natures law of supply and demand you will always lose and when mother gets mad she can be down right painful.


9 posted on 10/09/2014 12:32:38 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: tcrlaf
AIG was targeted in 1988 by Alan Greenspan when he, in violation of the law , unilaterally told those banks 'too big to fail' that they could trade derivatives. AIG wrote a huge proportion of those contracts. The good times rolled until they didn't on Sept. 16, 2008. The Federal Reserve and the Federal Government f'ed all of us by forcing, under penalty of imprisonment, to buy 79.9% of AIG stock. Ben Bernanke sold YOUR AIG stocks in 2012 for pennies on the dollar. Goldman Sacs did most of the public fornicating of the taxpayers. Those pricks even sold short some of the SIVs that they had sold to pension funds. It must have been high times and yucks by the head of Goldman.

Never trust investment bankers. Without hesitation I say they are as evil as Obama.

10 posted on 10/09/2014 12:58:23 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (con)
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To: Lorianne

The government had no right to seize private property. Read this article for a more balanced (i.e. non-leftist) view of what transpired with AIG:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/09/aig-case-is-no-joke-is-there-anything-fed-cant-do/


11 posted on 10/09/2014 3:48:14 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: Lorianne
Folks, this is about SIZING, UNCONSITUTIONALLY, the property of a corporation. That's it.

While I find it despicable that AIG received the bail out, it's the terms that are in question here.

First off, the government SHOULD have let them fail.

Second, they have ZERO authority to size any asset without a court order.

That's what this is about, so get of your high horses!

12 posted on 10/09/2014 4:35:11 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Nicojones

Well apparently they do.

Plus they seem to have the right to steal from multiple future generations not even born yet.

We’ll see how well that works out for them.


13 posted on 10/09/2014 6:21:42 AM PDT by Lorianne (.)
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