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Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech
Hotair ^ | 10/03/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 10/03/2014 12:22:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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21 posted on 10/03/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Obadiah

<>Our nation is in serious peril. <>

Freedom of speech is as much a trait as an outcome of free government.


22 posted on 10/03/2014 12:45:39 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our rights are non-negotiable.

But thank you for the opinion.


23 posted on 10/03/2014 12:49:50 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
In England, quoting Winston Churchill on Moslems can get you jailed.

While it is still legal here...



24 posted on 10/03/2014 12:50:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: cuban leaf

I hate to ask this, is saying that you hate hate-speech hate speech? Is hating the hate-speech maker and saying so hate-speech? Does the MSM hate filled speech about GWB or bitter clingers constitute hate-speech? Is outlawing hate-speech an act of hate in limiting speech? Is burning the flag hate-speech? Is defaming the tea-party hate speech? Are women’s studies programs at state universities a form or misandric hate speech? Is anything that Bill Mahr and Chris Mathews spew not hate-speech? I really hate what they say -oops was that hate speech? I think no baker or photographer should be forced by law to labor for that which they find abhorrent - was that hate speech? Barry Sotero does not qualify under the “Natural Born Citizen” clause to be President. Was that hate speech? Hillary has fat legs, hate-speech? I hate not knowing what hate I should hate and which hate I should embrace. It is just inconsistent and irrational - I hate that!


25 posted on 10/03/2014 12:50:16 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Obadiah

Low information voters are really low capacity thinkers. They don’t think and they don’t want to. They just want to live their happy carefree lives guaranteed by the state, and don’t want to be confronted by “bad things” like “hate.” So bad hate people should be locked away from them. Don’t ask for them to give you anything more than that. They won’t do it.


26 posted on 10/03/2014 12:51:59 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too many from other affiliations think the same thing. Repubs at 26%! Really!?


27 posted on 10/03/2014 12:54:28 PM PDT by vpintheak (Keep calm and Fire for Effect!)
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To: SeekAndFind

IOW, 51% of democrats oppose the 1st Amendment. I’m surprised that number isn’t higher.


28 posted on 10/03/2014 12:57:42 PM PDT by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: DaveyB

I hate that you posted that hate speech about haters using hate speech.


29 posted on 10/03/2014 1:02:49 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Vendome

I think we could add criminalizing profanity since it is often a form of hate speech as well. Somehow I doubt the left would go for that though.


30 posted on 10/03/2014 1:07:14 PM PDT by xp38
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To: SeekAndFind
" The error seems not sufficiently eradicated, that the operations of the mind, as well as the acts of the body, are subject to the coercion of the laws.
But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights, only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. If it be said his testimony in a court of justice cannot be relied on, reject it then, and be the stigma on him. Constraint may make him worse by making him a hypocrite, but it will never make him a truer man. It may fix him obstinately in his errors, but will not cure them. Reason and free inquiry are the only effectual agents against error. Give a loose to them, they will support the true religion by bringing every false one to their tribunal, to the test of their investigation. They are the natural enemies of error, and of error only. Had not the Roman government permitted free inquiry, christianity could never have been introduced. Had not free inquiry been indulged, at the æra of the reformation, the corruptions of christianity could not have been purged away. If it be restrained now, the present corruptions will be protected, and new ones encouraged. Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food.

Government is just as infallible, too, when it fixes systems in physics. Galileo was sent to the inquisition for affirming that the earth was a sphere; the government had declared it to be as flat as a trencher, and Galileo was obliged to abjure his error. This error however at length prevailed, the earth became a globe, and Descartes declared it was whirled round its axis by a vortex. The government in which he lived was wise enough to see that this was no question of civil jurisdiction, or we should all have been involved by authority in vortices. In fact the vortices have been exploded, and the Newtonian principles of gravitation is now more firmly established, on the basis of reason, than it would be were the government to step in and to make it an article of necessary faith. Reason and experiment have been indulged, and error has fled before them. It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. Subject opinion to coercion: whom will you make your inquisitors? Fallible men; men governed by bad passions, by private as well as public reasons. And why subject it to coercion? To produce uniformity. But is uniformity of opinion desireable? No more than of face and stature. Introduce the bed of Procrustes then, and as there is danger that the large men may beat the small, make us all of a size, by lopping the former and stretching the latter." - The Works of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. IV

Democrats, in particular might take note of the final paragraph, as they coercively pursue imposition of their late-20th and early-21st Century oppression in the name of science.
31 posted on 10/03/2014 1:07:17 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: cuban leaf

I hate that you spoke about how you hated my hate speech.


32 posted on 10/03/2014 1:08:16 PM PDT by DaveyB ("When injustice becomes the law; rebellion becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: xp38

Fk that....

;-)


33 posted on 10/03/2014 1:09:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: SeekAndFind
The best spin I can put on this for lefties is that YouGov’s question asked if they’d support a law that criminalizes comments that “advocate genocide or hatred” against a particular group.

That's actually a significant point, since advocating "hatred" would clearly be legal hate speech, but speech which advocates genocide could fall, depending on how it was worded and to whom it was said, anywhere within the range of legal hate speech to illegal menacing.

And I think this would also explain why the GOP "Oppose" number wasn't much higher than 49%, and also why 26% of them answered "Not Sure".
34 posted on 10/03/2014 1:09:51 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: DaveyB

I hate your post because of the hateful things you said about my hate speech. I hate that.


35 posted on 10/03/2014 1:10:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Another “spin” on the inclusion of “genocide” was that this was inserted so they could get the result they wanted (a higher percentage of people being in favor of making hate speech illegal).


36 posted on 10/03/2014 1:11:38 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: SeekAndFind

I assume only if they’re the ones who get to define what is hate speech and what is not?


37 posted on 10/03/2014 1:12:18 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind
Won't that put them in great peril when it comes to the Occupiers blatant antisemitism, the atheist public school's hatred of Christians and the Climate Alarmist's hatred of all who tell the truth?!
38 posted on 10/03/2014 1:14:27 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: longfellow

Exactly so. That’s the purpose of “political correctness” - to prevent uncomfortable and undeniable facts from coming out.

“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ~ George Orwell “1984” ~


39 posted on 10/03/2014 1:19:19 PM PDT by Roger Kaputnik
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To: SeekAndFind

Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech

So the hate speech of Jesse Jackson, would be criminalized?


40 posted on 10/03/2014 1:23:49 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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