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God Save Us from the Loud ‘I’m Staying Home This Year’ Conservatives
National Review-Campaign Spot ^ | 9-30-2014 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 10/01/2014 3:18:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: neocon1984; BlackElk
Harry Reid and BHO thank you for your efforts at not voting for their opposition.

There's your problem, right there: THEY HAVE NO OPPOSITION!

681 posted on 10/03/2014 10:41:06 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Harry Reid thanks you.


682 posted on 10/03/2014 11:55:39 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: txhurl

The GOPc is the conservative wing of the Republican Party.

Affiliation with the GOPc includes many conservatives that do not actually qualify as conservatives according to Free Republic dogma.

The term was coined to contrast those Republicans known as the GOPe many of whom are mischaracterized as RINO’s.


683 posted on 10/03/2014 12:11:24 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: cva66snipe

You are one of my favorite freepers...Bravo! Great Post!


684 posted on 10/03/2014 12:16:22 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: smoothsailing

God Save Us from the Loud ‘I’m Staying Home This Year’ Conservatives
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In other words, ya’ll better vote for another Bush or else...


685 posted on 10/03/2014 12:19:00 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: OneWingedShark; Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; NFHale
RE:” My only problem w/ Palin is that she supports McCain (you know the crazy old guy who pals around with terrorists, iced the F-22, constantly “reaches across the aisle”, and has his name on a pile of contraconstitutional bilge.) — if that isn't enough to make you at least question her, you ought to consider if you're infatuated or not.
Now her cult, those guys are kinda creepy — I didn't like the Obama cult of personality, why would I like one for “one of our guys”?

My biggest issue with the Palinistas is that they tied up a large % of FR threads for almost a year posting about a 2012 Palin run that was not going to happen. I mean it was obvious very early on that it would not.

And thru much of 2011 when I pointed out that she was not going to run, in fact definitely not planning one, many HERE went nuts.
They sounded so sure she would respond to their pathetic pleas..

She had decided against a run before March 2011, but only admitted it that October. Levin told his audience in Sept that he thought that she was running..

686 posted on 10/03/2014 12:42:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs; OneWingedShark

“My biggest issue with the Palinistas is that they tied up a large % of FR threads for almost a year posting about a 2012 Palin run that was not going to happen.”

And that could happen AGAIN, in defiance of all logic.

I hope she doesn’t endorse McCain in the primary again. To see people defend that, to say she “HAD TO” do it to avoid looking “petty” or “ungrateful”, just like she “had to” resign as Governor because “they made her”. Absurd. And yes, it’s there was/is a cult of personality thing going on with some people, and I don’t like it.


687 posted on 10/03/2014 1:11:53 PM PDT by Impy (Voting democrat out of spite? Then you are America's enemy, like every other rat voter.)
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To: smoothsailing
"Honey, I'm just not happy with your performance as a spouse, so I'm going to be less active in the marriage until you improve."

Exactly how I feel about the Republican Party. When the national committee and rest of the 'leadership' decides to support a real conservative agenda they can go to hell. No more money from me or my family. No more second worst choice just to collaborate.

688 posted on 10/03/2014 1:16:54 PM PDT by eldoradude (It doesn't matter how many it takes, the lightbulb has already been stolen.)
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To: Gilbo_3; OneWingedShark; sickoflibs; Maceman; INVAR

I’m writing in Ted Cruz, unless the GOP has a better option.


689 posted on 10/03/2014 2:24:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; OneWingedShark; Maceman; INVAR

“...I been ‘stalked’ here many-many times, ...”

Ok.. I admit it... I’M the Stalker... :^)

Hahah!


690 posted on 10/03/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Drango
Harry Reid thanks you.

Well at least we Conservatives will get appreciation from someone in Washington rather than being told we are going to be crushed wherever we are found after being called 'extremists' and punched in the nose by our own self-declared 'leadership'.

Harry Reid actually has already given thanks to the GOP Establishment ( you know, the turds you are attempting to shame us into voting for) enabling their agenda to be enacted without so much as a whimper of actual legitimate opposition.

It makes no difference whether Reid or McConnell is in leadership of the Senate, everything will continue exactly as it has for the last 6 years plus: expansion of government into a full-on despotism.

We will write in our Conservative candidates or vote for the Conservative in a third party. Harry is welcome to thank us all the day long because we know we will never get a shred of gratitude from your Party leadership.

691 posted on 10/03/2014 2:41:47 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bert

Are you going to assert that these elites can’t/won’t set up a vote they’re sure will fail and then allow some to put dissenting votes to “show” how the voter is conservative?


692 posted on 10/03/2014 3:15:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NFHale
I’m writing in Ted Cruz, unless the GOP has a better option.

The only problem with a Cruz candidacy is that it's not unquestionably clear that he qualifies under the NBC-clause: he was born in Canada and his father didn't become a Citizen until 2005. — If we want the Constitution to be held as the supreme law then we must respect it as such, especially when it is inconvenient.

693 posted on 10/03/2014 3:34:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I thought this was a dead issue. Cruz’s mother is an American citizen.

On a tangent however, I was discussing a Cruz run with a friend and we agreed it would be better if he had some executive experience, such as governor or lt. governor. The problem is TX has a good governor and lt. governor and it would not be wise to bump either.

Consequently, I thought running Cruz as VP on a ticket with a conservative governor would get Cruz that experience and not leave us with a Reagan-Bush dilemma. It’s just a thought.


694 posted on 10/03/2014 3:48:46 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta; OneWingedShark

“... I thought running Cruz as VP on a ticket...”

Scott Walker/Ted Cruz, then. Or Mike Pence/Ted Cruz.


695 posted on 10/03/2014 3:54:29 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I would never make such an assertion as you suggest.

To do should would imply micro knowledge of detail I don’t have.

On a macro scale, I for see the GOPc having great influence in the House that can be transmitted within the new Republican Senate by Senator Cruz and others

Politics is the art of the possible. Only that which can be done will actually be done


696 posted on 10/03/2014 3:56:09 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: trubolotta
I thought this was a dead issue. Cruz’s mother is an American citizen.

Does one citizen parent an NBC make?
Citing citizenship statutes is of questionable worth because a normal act of the legislature cannot alter the Constitution (that is it cannot define/redefine Natural Born Citizen).

On a tangent however, I was discussing a Cruz run with a friend and we agreed it would be better if he had some executive experience, such as governor or lt. governor. The problem is TX has a good governor and lt. governor and it would not be wise to bump either.

I disagree; perry is a poser.
Just look at the Display Purposes Only national guard mission down there; as Governor he has full authority to authorize the use of lethal military action to secure the border —

Art 4, Sec. 7. COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF MILITARY FORCES; CALLING FORTH MILITIA.
He shall be Commander-in-Chief of the military forces of the State, except when they are called into actual service of the United States. He shall have power to call forth the militia to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and to repel invasions.

Consequently, I thought running Cruz as VP on a ticket with a conservative governor would get Cruz that experience and not leave us with a Reagan-Bush dilemma. It’s just a thought.

Amendment 12 places the same NBC restriction on the VP:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; -- the President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; -- The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. --]* The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

697 posted on 10/03/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bert
I would never make such an assertion as you suggest.
To do should would imply micro knowledge of detail I don’t have.

Then you admit that the multitude of repeal votes is not necessarily proof that the Republican party is trying to get rid of it.
(Combined with the funding issue, it becomes fairly easy to say that the Republicans want it — or at the very least don't care about it not being repealed, they are exempt, after all.)

On a macro scale, I for see the GOPc having great influence in the House that can be transmitted within the new Republican Senate by Senator Cruz and others
Politics is the art of the possible. Only that which can be done will actually be done.

Granted; though it does little good to take people at their word after they've proven their word means very little.

698 posted on 10/03/2014 4:27:55 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Other sources disagree with you about Cruz meeting the NBC requirement for either office. That is a simple search and you and I not going resolve it in these comments.

It would be foolish to bump Perry, poser or not. He is more of a conservative asset than GOPe asset. There are several other governors that took some time to mature but I think would make good choices as well as Walker or Pence.

You may also be discounting Perry too early. Ebola may ignite an inferno beneath his posterior region.


699 posted on 10/03/2014 4:33:49 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: OneWingedShark

I make no admission to the canard you propose knowing it to be a lie.


700 posted on 10/03/2014 4:34:34 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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