Kansas’ Greg Orman knocks both parties in ad

Politico ^ | 10/01/2014 | KYLE CHENEY

[GIdget2004]

There have been hundreds of television ads this election cycle hitting President Barack Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and other incumbent senators — just not all in the same spot.

But to Kansas independent Greg Orman — the man who could rewrite 2014’s political script — Washington is a hive of dysfunction. And he wants to get there so badly he’s pulverizing both parties.

In an ad released on Wednesday by his Senate campaign, Orman name-checks the Senate’s Republican and Democratic leaders and calls them an equal part of Washington’s problems. Obama is too, he says, as is Sen. Pat Roberts, the Republican Orman is trying to unseat.

“If you listen to Pat Roberts and his Washington buddies, they’ll tell you that President Obama and Harry Reid are the reason Washington is such a mess,” Orman says. “And you know what, they’re half-right, but the other half of the mess: Mitch McConnell and Pat Roberts. The truth is both parties are more interested in political games than problem solving, and both parties are failing Kansas.”

Orman’s ads are produced by the Democratic firm Adelstein Liston.

[centurion316]

Orman’s campaign is the biggest lie of the political season. He is a Democrat and his efforts are being coordinated within the media and the Democrat Party to deceive the voters. If elected, he will be a loyal Democrat supporter of Harry Reid. Of that you can be sure. Promises and deals have been made.

[RIghtwardHo]

THIS is what the GOPe hath wrought.

[loveliberty2]

Just like Kay Hagan's ads in NC are straight out of the Party playbook!!

Republicans and Tillis, however, should hit hard on Hagan's absolute commitment to forcing the government takeover called "Obamacare" on citizens, including the lies which were used to promote it and to pass it in the middle of the night with only Democrats supporting it!!

She was a force in selling the idea, and she was a strong force in backing up the President's outright falsehoods in the "If you want to keep your doctor, . . . .," and all the other lies since. As a matter of fact there are videos showing her mouthing these misleading and outright falsehoods to voters.

Every family of a cancer patient who, in 2013, was forced to struggle with looking for a new insurance policy because of those lies and the ACA rules should publicize the real-life consequences of Hagan's complicity in voting for and supporting the so-called "Affordable" Care Act. The whole thing was a dishonest Trojan Horse scheme to take over a significant part of the economy. It had nothing to do with "helping" people, "affordable" care, or improving the lives of citizens. It was a government power grab, and Hagan supported it all the way!.

[alstewartfan]

This jerk is a radical Democrat who will vote with Obama 100% of the time.

[centurion316]

THIS is what the GOPe hath wrought.

And that fact should lead me to voting against my own best interests and the best interests of this country? I will never do that and those who do have lost their senses. Fits of pique almost never turn out well.

[Maceman]

And that fact should lead me to voting against my own best interests and the best interests of this country? I will never do that and those who do have lost their senses. Fits of pique almost never turn out well.

Your own best interest, and our nation's, is to stop supporting the GOPe establishment.

I admit that if I lived in Kansas I would vote for Roberts, since much of his "comeback" will arguably have to be credited to support from Sarah Palin and therefore, from Tea Party voters who might have stayed home. So a win for Roberts is a win for the Tea Party.

Butt as a rule -- no more voting for RINOs ever. Period.

In the past I voted for McCain, and Romney nationally, and for Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But I guess it depends on your belief in how far gone this nation is, and what it will take to restore it, assuming that is even possible at this point.

Personally, I now believe that the only way to save America at this point (assuming such a thing is still possible) is to put conservatives in political offices and enact an agenda based on free markets, limited government and the rule of law. As long as we have a Republican party that actively opposes those ends (and we do, obviously), then I believe our only (slim) hope is drastic action.

As long as the Republican Party establishment believes that it can continue to survive by being Democrat-lite, and that it can continue to maintain power while actively fighting against the core principles of liberty, free markets and Constitutional law, it will never make the necessary change of direction.

Only when the Republican party understands that it must change or die can we hope to turn this country around. Our too-long-serving entrenched establishment politicians can still enjoy their comfy lifestyles, their wealth, power and prestige as members of a minority party. So why should they bother to change direction?

Surely a John Boehner (or an Eric Cantor -- had he not been defeated -- or a Mitch McConnell) would be just as happy to be minority leaders if the election cycle didn't go their way. Yes, they would prefer to be majority leaders, but what good would it do them if a conservative Republican Party won the majority and then threw them out of their cushy positions and all those perks, replacing them with real conservatives?

Ask yourself -- which do you think Mitch McConnell would prefer -- a majority Republican party in which he was stripped of his position by a conservative majority, or a minority Republican party in which he could remain Senate minority leader because the majority of Republican senators were RINOs?

You may argue that we have no time to wait for the Republicans to realize that their only choice is to change or die as a viable party. But if we don't have time for that, then what makes you think we have time to wait for the RINOs and the GOP-e to pursue a "moderately marginal" course of action designed only to maintain their personal fiefdoms at the expense of a free America operating under the rule of Constitutional law?

The GOP had majority power in the House and Senate, and occupied the White House, 10 years ago. What did all that power do to move the agenda of liberty forward? Answer: nothing.

A GOP that cannot even sell liberty, limited governments and free markets to the American people is worse than useless. It is a party of tyranny enablers, and I will have none of it.

Unbelievably, today we once again face the stark choice between liberty and death.

Once again, these are the times that try men's souls. Conservatives need to be waging aggressive war against the totalitarian leftist tyrants on all fronts -- in the branches of government at the federal and state level, in academia, in the media, through public demonstrations, and in the voting booth.

Many argue that we must continue to vote for "the most electable conservative," which means "vote for the RINO if no conservative is running." But I respectfully disagree with that choice. I am done enabling.

If we really are to lose the greatest country in the history of the world, then let's at least be fighting for it when it goes down.

And who knows, maybe -- just maybe, if we show sufficient resolve and conviction -- divine Providence will once again provide the support that gave our founders their unlikely victory in 1776, and grant us once again the "new birth of freedom" that Lincoln called for a century later.

If you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. The RINOs have managed to own the Republican party because they know that conservatives have nowhere else to go.

To continue voting for RINOs is to play right into that strategy. The RINOs have become so certain of your vote that they actually believe they can continue to stay in power by declaring outright war on the conservative base.

And when they do that, they are actually declaring war on core American principles -- war on liberty, war on free market economics, and even war on the Constitution.

The RINO Republicans cannot even make an appeal to the traditional American love of those principles, because they have lost the credibility and historical awareness to articulate them, let alone promote them.

Yes, having Harry Reid continue as majority leader is a horrific scenario. But having RINO Republicans win that office is only a marginally better short-term outcome.

And in some ways it is even worse, because as the RINOs “reach across the aisle" to promote marginally modified Democrat policies, they give the Democrats cover from the well-deserved blame for the horrific damage that they have unleashed on our country in the last five years.

America is out of time now. We cannot continue on the current path. And as things continue to deteriorate, who do you think the voters will blame if the Republicans are in power when the 2016 elections come around?

You think Mitch McConnell's senate will repeal Obamacare? You think it will take the right position on immigration? You think a Republican Senate will vote against Obama’s left wing Supreme Court nominations?

America needs clear, passionate and articulate voices to advocate and defend our founding principles, to secure our borders, to preserve our nation, and to take legislative and administrative steps to turn this country around, assuming it still can be turned around.

Majority leader Mitch McConnell will NEVER provide that voice or leadership. He is not the guy to turn things around for our formerly blessed nation.

But in 2016 a newly terrified Republican party will be forced to court instead of alienate the conservative base, and come 2017 will be in a position to put the party and our nation on the proper path. Such a duly chastised party has a real chance of nominating a Ted Cruz, instead of a Mitt Romney who, according to last night's panel on Fox News, is at this point the likely Republican presidential nominee.

So in November, for those whose only choice in the mid-terms is between a RINO and a Democrat, I urge them to stay home on election day, or vote third-party -- anything to prove the RINOs wrong in thinking that they can stay in power by literally declaring war on conservatism.

Think about it.

[Dan in Wichita]

Are you trying to say Orman would not be running had Milton Wolf defeated Roberts in the GOP primary?

[KC_Conspirator]

Roberts is running the shittiest campaign next to Tillis in NC.

However, this article is nothing but cheerleading from Politico. A shameful pretense of journalism.

[txhurl]

Wolf has promised to throw his support to Orman if he will caucus with the Rs. Orman says he will caucus with whichever party wins the Senate. What the hell kind of answer is that and why aren’t ads being run on it???

[montag813]

Orman’s campaign is the biggest lie of the political season. He is a Democrat and his efforts are being coordinated within the media and the Democrat Party to deceive the voters.

And it is going to work

[montag813]

Republicans and Tillis, however, should hit hard on Hagan's absolute commitment to forcing the government takeover called "Obamacare" on citizens

Nope, Tillis should be hitting her mercilessly on the border invasion and NC victims of illegal alien rapists. But he won't. Because he is pro-amnesty.

[centurion316]

Your own best interest, and our nation's, is to stop supporting the GOPe establishment.

I profoundly disagree, and since you keep posting the same manifesto on each of these threads, we can conclude that you don't bring much of an argument to the table.

Defeating the GOP establishment is the way to achieve the results that conservatives desire. And we are doing this in every election cycle. True conservative candidates replace establishment incumbents in every election from local, state, and nation and then they win reelection. The numbers are clear, the Republican Party is more conservative at every level and in every part of the country.

Do we still have entrenched incumbents in powerful positions at these levels? Yes, of course we do. The most successful politicians these days are often those willing to compromise their principles for corruption, graft, and cronyism. People with money in the game are going to use their power and influence to keep these people in office. But, they are being replaced as conservatives stay focused on the goal and are willing to take a long view of what it takes to win.

Carrying the fight within the Republican Party into the contests against Democrats does nothing but help them and those who want to sit around and rant about how they aren't satisfied with the current state of politics are short sighted and myopic, in my view.

Your plan: Personally, I now believe that the only way to save America at this point (assuming such a thing is still possible) is to put conservatives in political offices and enact an agenda based on free markets, limited government and the rule of law.

I think that's a good plan, but you don't do it by supporting Democrats or sitting on the sidelines, that's for damn sure. I'm sick and tired of the quitters out there.

[hometoroost]

He’s so independent that the Democrats are blocking a Democrat from re-entering the race.

[Mr Rogers]

Demoncrats lie. It is what they do. They cannot help themselves.

I understand Roberts is a tool, but his voting record would probably beat either of my Republican senators from Arizona...and the votes count.

[Lumper20]

I will vote straight Republican as the only way to stop Obama now is to have both houses under control. I cannot afford to only pick ultra conservatives like I am and I prefer. This nation is close to being gutted due to the LEFT.

[p. henry]

Agreed Centurion. As a former Kansan (but a resident of SoCal for the last 37 years) I contributed to Roberts’ campaign yesterday. There will be no better way to set up the 2016 Presidential and Senate campaigns than to force the Senate to vote on the more than 100 House bills that the Senate has never even had to consider. That will never happen if Reid continues to be the Majority Leader. It is short-sighted beyond belief to support the election of Democrats (including the false Independent in Kansas) in this election by “teaching the establishment a lesson.” My two favorite politicians from the last 60 years were Goldwater and Reagan. They didn’t desert the Party. They took it over. I strongly suggest that today’s conservatives take the same approach.

[longtermmemmory]

“you can not win a war by surrendering in all the battles.”

[Maceman]

I profoundly disagree, and since you keep posting the same manifesto on each of these threads, we can conclude that you don't bring much of an argument to the table.

I think I bring excellent arguments to the table (as do the many Freepers who offer favorable responses and supportive Freepmails.)

I do post this "manifesto" a lot, but that is not evidence that I make no valid arguments. I post a lot because, like TV commercials, you need repetition before you reach a large audience. And I think that my arguments deserve being heard by a large audience.

I understand that you disagree, even as the Republican leadership is lowering expectations about what they'll do if they take the Senate in 2014.

And maybe you missed this latest gem about what John McCain is saying will happen if the Republicans win the Senate: “I will work very hard to go back to 60 votes,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who boldly predicts a Republican Senate would process Obama’s nominees “more rapidly than [Democrats] do today.”

And as if that's not enough, now John Boehner is boasting that "very few" House Republicans will oppose him.

You say: Defeating the GOP establishment is the way to achieve the results that conservatives desire. And we are doing this in every election cycle.

Well, I have to admit that I wasn't too impressed at this year's Republican primaries, where the GOPe declared outright war on conservative candidates, and managed to have virtually its whole slate of RINOs win the ballot slots. (True, Eric Cantor was a victory for our side, but it's not enough.)

How many election cycles do you think this country can survive with conservatives settling for beating GOPe candidates in onesies and twosies?

The GOPe needs to be shaking in horror, and the only way that will happen is if they understand they will not win elections without the base. And the only way they will understand that is if the base refuses to show up.

I am not quitting. I am fighting with the only weapon I have available -- my refusal to keep playing Lucy's football game. How about you?

[centurion316]

With all of that said, your plan is to rail against Republicans and support Democrats. It’s a losers strategy.