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7 reasons Mike Pence will be the GOP nominee in 2016
VOX ^ | September 30, 2014 | Matthew Yglesias

Posted on 09/30/2014 2:53:52 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

7 reasons Mike Pence will be the GOP nominee in 2016

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Early polling tells you almost nothing about presidential nomination battles, since it ends up almost exclusively telling you about name recognition. Early media buzz is similar. People like to read stories about figures they've already heard of, and it's easier to write stories about politicians you've already covered.

But you don't need to be a celebrity to win a nomination, you just need to be known — and liked — by the network of elected officials, operatives, donors, and ideological activists who make up a modern political party. And that's why I think a not-so-famous politician is actually the guy with the best shot at being the GOP's candidate in 2016.

Meet Indiana governor and former House member Mike Pence. Here's why his chances of being the next Republican nominee for president are excellent.

1) Mike Pence fits the bill

(MikePence.com)

(MikePence.com)

The baseline criteria for becoming a major party presidential nominee is that you have to be the kind of person a major party would nominate for president. Lots of other people participate in debates, do well in occasional polls, and even might win some votes in primaries. But to be the nominee, you have to be like a nominee. And Pence certainly fits the bill — governor of a state is about the most common nominee out there, and his past congressional experience means he's known to DC players. In his congressional days, he made regular media appearances and (unlike, say, Sarah Palin) is prepared to talk about a range of policy issues and field questions from the national press.

2) Mike Pence has avoided controversy

(No Labels)

(No Labels)

Voters continue to dislike partisan controversy. Presidential aspirants invariably get juice from the idea of somehow floating beyond or above the grubby partisan contentiousness they associate with Washington. Small details like the extent to which your bipartisan dealmaking depended on the existence of an unusually liberal state-level GOP in your state (Obama in Illinois) or an unusually conservative state-level Democratic Party (George W. Bush in Texas) are best brushed over.

As polarization has progressed, that kind of faux-bipartisanship is harder to pull off. Pence has the next best thing, though. Indiana is a sufficiently Republican-dominated state that he's managed to govern without any high-profile clashes with the Democrats. By contrast, Republican governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio have all gotten embroiled in weird procedural wrangling with Democratic legislatures over anti-union moves.

As of September 25, Pence's Wikipedia page's controversies section only names one controversy — "During Pence's first term as the 50th Governor of Indiana, he was criticized for censoring comments on his official government Facebook page." LOL. He'll do.

3) Mike Pence is well-liked by other GOP politicians

(Republican Governors Association)

(Republican Governors Association)

The biggest fallacy about presidential nominations is overestimating the role of rank-and-file voters. As political scientists Marty Cohen, David Karol, Hans Noel, and John Zaller have shown, established party actors actually exert vast control over the process. When two contenders are very evenly matched in terms of party support — like Obama and Hillary Clinton in 2008 — then things like get-out-the-vote operations, inspirational speeches, and caucus tactics do make the difference. But generally speaking, the party decides.

As a congressman, Pence was well-liked by his colleagues. After just one term in the House, he became chairman of the Republican Study Committee, an influential factional organization for the most conservative House GOP members. At the start of his forth term in office, he was elected to the number three slot in the leadership. He would be a leading contender to succeed John Boehner as Speaker of the House had he not left Congress for the governor's mansion. Instead, as a first-time governor he's been elected by his fellow Republican governors to the Executive Committee of the Republican Governor's Association.

What you see here is that Mike Pence doesn't attract the intense devotion of more ideologically distinct candidates like Sens. Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, but he's liked by broader swaths of the party. As Mike Allen put it, Pence has the ability to "bridge the establishment/business and evangelical/tea party wings of the GOP."

Journalists tend to overrate charisma and public-facing speeches while underrating networking. But politics isn't so different from any other industry. Networking matters, and Pence is good at it.

4) Mike Pence is an orthodox conservative

Mike Pence, tea partying (Mark Taylor)

Mike Pence, tea partying (Mark Taylor)

Ideological deviations are something a potential nominee can overcome (see Mitt Romney and health care, or John McCain and immigration) but they don't help. The main thing that makes them surmountable is that generally in any given field everybody's got at least one. Pence does not. Before he ran for office, Pence was a conservative talk radio host so playing to the base is literally the foundation of his career. He represented a safe Republican seat in Congress, and even though his 2012 gubernatorial bid was actually pretty close, Indiana is a pretty solidly conservative state.

He's never faced a ton of objective political pressure to compromise his principles, and his principles are the principles of a highly engaged conservative. Primary voters probably don't know much about him at the moment, but when they do learn about him they'll like what they hear.

5) Mike Pence is plugged into the GOP's new money network

Caricature of David Koch (Donkey Hotey)

Caricature of David Koch (Donkey Hotey)

Pence is well-liked by GOP elected officials, but there's more to the party than politicians. One very influential set of party actors in today's Republican Party are the Koch brothers and their financial network. They have ties, obviously, to a number of leading Republicans. But as Kenneth Vogel and Maggie Haberman wrote in August, Pence has the inside track in Koch-land. The key link is Marc Short, a former Pence chief of staff who now runs Freedom Partners, a kind of umbrella organization for the Kochs' various political activities.

Of course there are any number of Republicans who share the Kochs' basic ideological outlook. But the shared taste in senior staffers is a strong indication that the new movers in Republican money also have confidence in Pence's judgment as a leader and organization-builder.

6) Mike Pence broke with his party smartly

US Department of Education in 2007 (Andy Grant)

US Department of Education in 2007 (Andy Grant)

Pence joined exactly the right rebellions against the Bush-era GOP. He opposed No Child Left Behind, and led an insurgent group of House members who voted against Bush's 2003 Medicare expansion. Pence also bucked the president to oppose immigration reform in 2007. These are precisely the main Bush initiatives that are now rejected by the vast bulk of the party. They show the base that Pence is not a mindless establishmentarian, while the absence of other significant deviations shows the establishment that he's not a reckless madman either. He picked his battles, and he picked them intelligently.

7) Mike Pence backs Reaganesque economics

The Gipper (DOD photo)

The Gipper (DOD photo)

Barack Obama took office at a moment in time when macroeconomic circumstances called for a large budget deficit. This led Obama to propose a stimulus measure that both included lots of policies progressives love (and conservatives hate) and that increased the deficit substantially.

Conservatives opposed this bill, and in the course of opposing it found themselves embracing a hard-line anti-deficit ideology that the party had abandoned at least a generation ago. But the GOP didn't abandon its love of cutting tax rates on high income households. Consequently, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan ended up running on a platform that, when you ran the numbers, meant tax cuts for the rich paid for through higher taxes on the middle class and massive cuts in social programs for the needy.

The winning political formula for Republicans has long been, in the immortal words of Dick Cheney, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Cut tax rates for the rich, make that more palatable by also cutting tax rates for the middle class, and then pay for it by … not paying for it.

Pence was a solid supply-sider as a member of Congress, and took Reaganesque fiscal thinking to new heights in his draft proposal for Social Security privatization. While lesser thinkers proposed to cut guaranteed Social Security benefits in order to offer people the rewards of private Social Security accounts, Pence's proposal was to simply assume that the benefits of privatization would be so enormous as to make it possible to guarantee that nobody's accounts would pay less than is offered by today's guaranteed benefits. It's all upside with no downside!

It wouldn't work, of course, any more than promises from Reagan or Bush to increase revenue by cutting taxes worked. But this kind of thing is the time-tested way to sell conservative economic policy and freed from the constraints of Obama-era debates about Keynes, Pence is the ideal person to bring it back.


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To: Ooh-Ah

I want a Cruz/Pence ticket...


61 posted on 09/30/2014 4:39:31 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Uh No He won’t be the nominee. I doubt he will even run.


62 posted on 09/30/2014 4:42:43 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Really. Pence tested the waters back about 10 years or so ago. I recall little about him except that I didn't like him. I believe he is a "moderate" which is why the Palin-hater is sucking up to him.
63 posted on 09/30/2014 5:06:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: grania
Do we really want another governor as candidate with great credentials
Absolutely. If for no other reason than that governors make significantly better candidates for POTUS, because governor is the office least unlike the presidency.

There has never been an incumbent POTUS defeated for re-election by anyone other than a governor - and Warren G. Harding was the last, and only, senator to defeat a governor in an open-seat presidential election. There have been only a few sitting VPs elected to the presidency - none of whom served as VP under mediocre presidents. The last two such presidents were Andrew Jackson and Ronald Reagan.


64 posted on 09/30/2014 5:20:06 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

I’ve mentioned several times that my top tier choices are (in no particular order) Cruz, Palin, Santorum, Jindal, and Pence. Just yesterday I posted: “I think that Pence may emerge as the ultimate choice.” I still think that, but I would be happy with any of the five.


65 posted on 09/30/2014 5:20:53 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: Ooh-Ah; All
Orthodox Conservative

Somebody crafted that phrase with thoughtful care.

A little too thoughtful. It makes the BS meter jump.

66 posted on 09/30/2014 5:26:19 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: grania
Do we really want another governor as candidate with great credentials but no track record of how he/she would vote in DC?

Cruz has stated clearly and repeatedly: He thinks Obamacare should be totally repealed, tossed out on its ear.

I read/skimmed the piece on Pence, most of which is façade with little true informative value. Its approach is to say somebody is something, with zero reference as to how that somebody is something. I didn't see one reference to Pence's stand on Romney/Obama Care.

Honestly, the things articles leave out tell you as much or more than what they leave in!

67 posted on 09/30/2014 5:31:34 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ilgipper

He’s my gov. While he’s better than most Republicans, he’s still a Rick Perry kinda politician.

Get rid of Common Core? No, just change the name. The state requirements are nearly identical to common core.

It’s kinda like Val’s trick of renaming something to make the problem go away. Turn-backs become deportations, combat becomes kinetic action, Al qeada becomes Khoreson.


68 posted on 09/30/2014 5:32:35 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Ooh-Ah

How about Jason Chaffetz on the ticket with him?

Rick Perry for Homeland Security Dept head

Ted Cruz for Attorney General


69 posted on 09/30/2014 6:48:06 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: grania; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; goldstategop; AuH2ORepublican; ...
Do we really want another governor as candidate with great credentials but no track record of how he/she would vote in DC?

What? First of all, Presidents don't vote, they administrate, like Governors.

Second of all, Pence spent 12 years in Congress, he had a conservative voting record.

He's definitely one of the better choices being mentioned.

70 posted on 10/01/2014 9:24:53 AM PDT by Impy (Voting democrat out of spite? Then you are America's enemy, like every other rat voter.)
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To: Impy
7 reasons Mike Pence will be the GOP nominee in 2016


71 posted on 10/01/2014 9:38:15 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; NFHale; AuH2ORepublican

“He’s definitely one of the better choices being mentioned.”

No doubt.


72 posted on 10/01/2014 1:56:54 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Impy; grania; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; goldstategop; ...

RE Pence:

That’s good to hear. But we’ll see...


73 posted on 10/01/2014 2:23:02 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ilgipper

Pence sold out to big government in about 2006 and sold out to socialism last year.


74 posted on 10/15/2014 2:00:18 PM PDT by Gipper08
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To: grania

Mike Pence is a RINO


75 posted on 10/15/2014 2:01:05 PM PDT by Gipper08
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To: kabar

Are you still anti Mike Pence? Just wondering because I really liked him in the past and he seems to fit my criteria for what we need in a presidential candidate. Found the below and it seems to agree that Pence would be a good candidate. As to immigration, I wonder if Pence has changed his mind a bit, or changed his plan in light of changes over these past number of years?

http://www.americanlegislator.org/cato-grades-governors-on-fiscal-record-2014/


76 posted on 01/22/2015 8:27:04 AM PST by Morgan in Denver (Destroy the Democrat Brotherhood)
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To: GeronL
Years back I was all for Mike Pence but he pretty much vanished from the scene for too long.

He was too busy being a successful governor of an important Midwest state.

77 posted on 01/22/2015 10:42:18 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Not my circus, not my monkeys. Je Suis Charlie!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic is from 9/30/2014. Thanks Ooh-Ah.

78 posted on 02/24/2016 1:18:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Note: this topic is from 9/30/2014. First pinged this in February. BS from Kos-affiliated Vox, iow, Partisan Media Shills alert. Thanks Ooh-Ah.

79 posted on 05/06/2016 5:46:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

A bump for a newly interesting old article.


80 posted on 07/23/2016 6:52:41 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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